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Re: Ableton w/ VST Looper

On 22 jun 2006, at 12.19, Buzap Buzap wrote:

> Yesterday I've managed to run Mobius with Ableton (I intend to  
> mostly use Mac, though).

Then you will have to run XP on the Mac (Intel CPU Mac + Boot Camp)

> Using Moebius, I can get loops of any length into Ableton, indeed.
> Now, what I want to figure out:
> Once I get a loop of any length into Ableton via Moebius - how can  
> I create additional loops of same/multiple length?

In Live: Us the global quantization and record audio to a track, thus  
creating a lIve audio clip.

In Mobius: Set the Preset so Mobius will create a new loop of the  
same length (as the one you are coming from) when you select a new  
and empty (Mobius) track.

> I guess I could do several loops like that in paralell within  
> Moebius. However, I would like to have different effect settings  
> for each loop.

Set eight Live tracks (session view) to fetch the eight track outputs  
from Mobius. Now, if you create a new loop on a new Mobius track it  
will send audio into its own dedicated Live channel/track.

But you should know that the concept of splitting audio over many  
channels to apply effects in real-time will eat up a lot of CPU  
power. I used that concept in the past but left it for musical/ 
performance reasons. Instead I now use effects before loopers and  
record effects as parts of the loops. I may go back to your concept  
some day in the future if super powerful laptops are available. Until  
then I prefer to work the instant composing stuff on a master track  
level (mangling the summed layers/loops) instead of taking the remix  
approach to split it up in parallel. (but when producing recorded  
music I definitely use as much multi-track techniques as possible)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
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