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Re: Resampling in Live (Re: Ableton w/ VST Looper)

Thanks to both of you.  It's perfectly clear.

I've just been trying to find a better way to use multiple ouputs in live
without bussing through return tracks....

To my knowledge there is no better way than that...  I thought that perhaps
it should be possible to have the input for an audio track be the master
out, but I guess that is avoided because of the obvious chaos which could
ensue if that routing was mismanaged.


On 6/22/06 12:12 PM, "Andreas Wetterberg" <awetterberg@post.cybercity.dk>

> Indeed, but to clarify: The process of using resampling is also
> realtime, it just can't be monitored in real-time.
> .
> Andreas.
> Per Boysen wrote:
>> Resampling on an audio track makes a loop of what is happening on the
>> master output at that moment. After you have resampled you may of course
>> route the clip of that clip (loop) directly to any physically available
>> output on the sound card, or to a Return Track if you like to use that
>> as the pipe to a different output. But REsampling is not a real-time
>> audio routing method, only a quick way to snag what's cooking.
>> per
>> On 22 jun 2006, at 17.36, Todd Reynolds wrote:
>>> I'm sorry, I don't want to divert this conversation, but I thought 
>>> Buzap Buzap could benefit from this answer...
>>> Per, now that you brought up resampling, can you use a resampling
>>> track to
>>> bus the whole output to another stereo output pair?, or is the only
>>> way to
>>> use a return track?
>>> All best to you both, todd
>>> On 6/22/06 8:06 AM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 22 jun 2006, at 14.02, Buzap Buzap wrote:
>>>>>> I prefer to work the instant composing stuff on a master track
>>>>>> level (mangling the summed layers/loops) instead of taking the remix
>>>>>> approach to split it up in parallel.
>>>>> I like to mix stuff until I have a certain density. Then, to keep
>>>>> the mix interesting, I like to add some delay or phaser/flanger or
>>>>> reverse on some loops.
>>>>> But if you have 8 loops in Mobius, I guess I could pick a loop and
>>>>> then resample it with effects, would be probably less CPU consuming.
>>>> Yes. In Live it's very easy to resample any loop or mix of loops.
>>>> Simply set the track input to "Resampling", record enable the track
>>>> and trig the slot where you want to place the clip. In my Mac setup
>>>> with Live and Augustus Loop I usually keep one Live track instantly
>>>> set up for resampling. After having resampled you can drag the clip
>>>> with the mouse to another track that maybe has a more suitable
>>>> effects setting.
>>>>> Could it perhaps work the other way - using Ableton as effect
>>>>> machine for Mobius?
>>>> Oh yes! "The other way"....?  Isn't that the main reason people want
>>>> to run loopers as VST/au plug-ins in Live? Live has excellent effects.
>>>> Greetings from Sweden
>> .

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