Re: Tonelab JC-120 emulation

["Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>]

Thanks, Mark, I think I'll try out yoru VF1 settings two on one of 
mine..you 
have two too? They look nice side by side, don't they...

Kris

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mark sottilaro" <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com>
To: <billwalker@baymoon.com>; <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 1:29 PM
Subject: OT: Tonelab JC-120 emulation


> --- William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
>
>> Well Mark I'd be curious as to how you did the JC120
>> thingy on the tonelab
>
> Here's my settings.  Of course with a different
> guitar/pa setup your mileage will vary.
>
> First I start with the Boutique Clean amp model
> gain: 2.3
> vr gain 7.8
> treb 2.4
> mid 7.2
> bass 10
> TURN OFF THE CAB models.  This is the key I think.
>
> Wait, you're asking, where's the chorus?  Good
> question.  While the Tonelab's effects are good, since
> I'm always slaved to a MIDI clock I like my presets
> set up to follow them too.  For that I love the VF-1.
> So much so I bought two!
>
> Here's how that's set up:
> I started off with a patch called "3D CHORUS"  it's
> basically a 4 band EQ that I turn off and roland's
> nice stereo chours that I love so much.
> Polarity: Invert
> rate BPM/whole note
> depth 80
> predelay 10ms
> low cut: flat
> high cut: flat
> effect level 100%
>
> then I make sure the master bpm is set for MIDI and
> viola, it syncs up all nice.  Would it stand up next
> to the real thing?  I don't know but I love the sound
> anyway and I haven't owned a JC-120 since the mid 80s.
> Basically I wish someone would make an amp modeler
> that would have everything synced like I like it, but
> it seems no one is/will.  The Vox was supposed to be a
> way to loose the rack for small gigs, and I still keep
> alt presets set up when I don't want to drag out the
> FV-1... but I never use them.  I know, NI's guitar
> rig.... Give me some time, I'm just now awaking to the
> wonders of Laptop looping.  Man did I have an amazing
> night with Mobius last night.
>
> Mark
>
>
>> (and why???? in gods name) and  Actually like most
>> of the stomp box effects
>> on the tonelab allot except, the overdrive and
>> distortion models on the
>> front end; a klon clone, even more exaggerated mid
>> range honk than the
>> original, a tube screamer model , that just doesn't
>> rattle my cage, and a
>> rat model, zzzzzzzz, among others, though the
>> octavia octave, and ring
>> modulator effects are quite nice. My solution was,
>> until a week ago, to
>> pirate my fulltone fulldrive from my gig rig pedal
>> board, and stick it in
>> the tonelabs effects loop (which is at the front of
>> the chain). Well last
>> week I got my new twin tube pedal from Seymour
>> Duncan, and I am just dumb
>> struck at how good this thing sounds driving the
>> front end of the tonelab.
>> Since it uses two subminiature tubes running at high
>> plate voltage, it adds
>> tremendous dynamics and dimension not to mention two
>> channels of anything
>> from clean boost with a hint of extra fatness, to
>> very saturated, yet smooth
>> and singing overdrive, all with great touch
>> sensitivity. I just submitted a
>> review to Harmony Central, in which I shamelessly
>> gushed about how good it
>> sounds. Since I like many of the delay and
>> modulation presets on the tone
>> lab, and I'm not a big flange or chorus guy,  I was
>> just searching for a
>> more natural sounding overdrive to compliment the
>> tweed, black face, early
>> marshall, and vox models I tend to use, and boy does
>> this puppy fit the
>> bill.
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mark sottilaro
>> [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:11 AM
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: RE: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp
>>
>>
>> --- William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Mark has a point,
>>
>> I thought you couldn't notice it with my hair style!
>>
>>
>> > Do take
>> > note that the vox people did not see fit to model
>> a
>> > transistor amp, not jazz
>> > chorus model ala line 6. So if that is your mind
>> set
>> > maybe the vox ain't for
>> > you.
>>
>> Wait!  There's MORE!  I did find a way to get a good
>> JC120 sound out of the Tonelab!  I forget how now...
>> I'll check tonight and let you know.  I know the key
>> was leaving out either the amp modeling stage or cab
>> modeling stage.  Also, I found I got better results
>> when I use the VF-1's stereo chorus (which I know
>> Kris
>> has a couple of)
>>
>> I have to say that as much as I like some of the
>> stompbox models of the Tonelab, when I'm in the
>> studio
>> I ditch them in favor of the VF-1's which I feel are
>> really great (and MIDI syncable which the tonelab
>> sadly isn't)  Don't sell them Kris, you'll be sad.
>> Also I found they're one of the best processor out
>> there for putting distortion on keyboard sounds
>> (though not for guitar)
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Mark
>>
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