Now I see .. I'll check the manual for Loop IV. Anyway, is Ausiris still selling this upgrade directly from his webpage or it's a phantom page nowadays? Looks like the last web update was made in 2002? Is Kim managing this forum yet? Many, many thanks to my favourite teachers: Andy, Per, Bernhard, Luis, and comments from Gary. RBT. The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra