Re: Steppophonic - could this work?

["Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>]

Definitely useful for someone out there! Interesting workaround. But I
actually don't know about any other looper than the EDP than can work
like that - in "sampler mode" only spitting out one note at any given
rate/speed pitch. But that would still not work for a pattern that
uses three or four overlapping notes. Four EDPs? Hmm... Can Mobius be
set to play a sampled note just once? Not checking its manual now, but
if that's possible your idea could worlk. This far. I can't see how to
implement a continuous tempo multiply/divide function to those MIDI
Clips in Live? My idea needs scaling to the simplest musical timing
values (fourth note, dotted, triplet etc) but the only way to do that
in Live is to manually open the clip properties window and speed up or
slow down the clip by 100 percent! I only know about Numerology so far
that already has that playable sequencing engine, but maybe it comes
with Live 8... (can't run Mobius in Num since it is an AU host).

Halfway possible, sort of... but not my bag though, until maybe Live 8
is available to let the software follow the musician tempo set by the
first loop. And if having to wait for Live 8 anyway it may be as good
to simply make a sampler with Max For Live so it will work according
to the functionality I defined; doing stuff like proper voice
allocation to prevent CPU overflow if the player maximizes duration
for the playback of the sequenced slices

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi Per
>
> I have thought through your Steppophonic Looper. I think it could maybe 
>work in a way like this. Let me know if that goes in the right direction:
>
> So, the basic components are commonly available:
> - MIDI Looper/Sequencer (i.e. Ableton Live)
> - Audio Looper (i.e. SooperLooper, Mobius or EDP)
> - Vocal Harmonizer (i.e. Digitech)
>
> A designated hardware Vocal Harmonizer might do the trick in terms of 
>real-time peformance. The rest goes like this:
> - In your Looper, record a sample
> - Looper is NOT synced to anything, it just plays single shot samples 
>via MIDI
> - In Ableton, create a MIDI clip that triggers the Looper sample via 
>MIDI (trigger pattern as you wish)
> - Route the Looper audio out to your Vocal Harmonizer
> - In Ableton, create a MIDI clip that reflects the pitches/harmonies you 
>want to hear
> - Send this MIDI information to your Vocal harmonizer
> - The Vocal Harmonizer now should play your sample according to the 
>pitch/time settings in Ableton
>
> Usually, the MIDI trigger and the MIDI harmonies should be synchronized 
>(you could change it for effects though).
> You could create different Ableton scenes i.e. with different chords 
>that you assign to MIDI pedals etc.
> You could additionally route back the Vocal harmonizer Audio Out to 
>Ableton Live and send it through additional gates/filters etc.
>
> Could an approach like this be useful in any way?
>
> best regards
> Buzap
>
>
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