Re: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options

[Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gmail.com>]

Absolutely.

What really helps is that aproach. I've learned it a few years ago  
from a video with John Abercrombie.

It helps developing a sense of "linearity".

On Feb 26, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> Marc,
>
> I think the guys that experiment with different tunings don't really
> "think" the music as "an instrument". We rather think the the music as
> the notes; I mean, according to a key, a scale (not "guitar neck"
> scale but the real sounding scale, the vibreations) and a tonal
> center. If you think music like that, all you have to do is to find
> out "where on this new instrument are the octave, the fifth" etc etc.
> Soon you're off playing your usual stuff with the new instrument's
> special touch options.
>
> To learn an instrument as "I put my finger down here to get this note"
> is a mistake IMHO and I'm amazed that music schools still do that to
> kids. You should learn instrument by first learning a melody of let's
> say three notes. Then you find out how to play that melody on the
> instrument.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:44 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com 
> > wrote:
>> I've been watching this tread with grrat interest, I think its  
>> amazing how
>> so many of you have experimented with tunings, and have of course  
>> tried some
>> things myself on spare guitars, for effects. (Like for example the  
>> tunings
>> that Rick mentioned, about tuning the whole guitar to one note for  
>> groovy
>> droning noise stuff etc).
>>
>> What really amazes me however is... do you guys reall RE-learn all  
>> your
>> scales and chords for all these different tunings?  I mean, if you  
>> tune to
>> this 5ths approach... how do you play a chord!!! Its taken me 33  
>> years
>> (since I first got a guitar) to learn a few girl guide chords, and  
>> a couple
>> of bar chords.... one (ok two) scales, that I can slide up and  
>> down... but
>> the thing that has stopped me REALLY getting into tuning is this...  
>> Do I
>> really have to forget what I ever knew... and dedicate my life to a  
>> new
>> tuning????
>>
>> I myself have been using baritone guitar for 10 years, with a A based
>> tuning, this gives me the LOWS I need for bass parts, and I use a  
>> lot of
>> pitch shifting, and can go high enough... but this is still  
>> standard tuning
>> basically, just tined down a bit...
>>
>> Have to try out this 5ths thing
>>
>> m
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Per Boysen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone here on the list having tried tuning a guitar in fifths for
>>>>> wider orchestration options? Or even wider intervals? Would make  
>>>>> sense
>>>>> when looping to get lower bass and higher highs. I guess you  
>>>>> have to
>>>>> pick a custom string set for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>>>
>>>>> Per Boysen
>>>>> www.boysen.se
>>>>> www.perboysen.com
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been tuning in straight fifths for  the past 15 years or  
>>> so....
>>>
>>> http://jpsongs.com/troubadortech/zwickrig.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ...
>>> http://www.zmix.net
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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