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RE: Stories



And that's the difference between music and stories, a musical piece (or a painting )can be just beautiful, it doesn't NEED a story.  It can be just what it is, without name, myth or model.
Every listener can, id the want to attach a story to it, but the piece is not a story. It doesn't need a meaning or contain a message, it just IS.
My objection is that by calling musical pieces stories we reduce the content of the music. I think that music is more basic than words, a story can describe a piece of music it can't BE the music. Turning a story into music is the other way around, we go behind the words and try to capture the feelings the words describe. Along with Wittgenstein i believe that we are trapped in language, music is one way to escape. At least for a while. When i play a seldom THINK (in words,) i just DO.
 
Maybe some abstract art is out chance to be a chimpanzee :-)
 
Anders
 
> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:56:29 +0100
> Subject: Re: Stories
> From: perboysen@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:14 PM, samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Seems to me humans have some mysterious(fear of empty space/ambiguity?) need
> > to understand the world and their experiences,and therefor come up with
> > stories,mythologies, models (scientific ,philosophic etc.), art,
> > cosmologies,, etc.
>
> Yes, that's the typical human way - always telling others about
> yourself and your latest experiences. A chimpanzee can learn as many
> words as a three year old child but there is a huge difference: when
> you meet a child it will never stop telling you stories about whatever
> have happened lately. The chimpanzee never tell you a shit, whatever
> it has been through.
>
> Per
>