Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions

["L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>]

sooooo here is another contender with dual switches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RCKLh09zVI&feature=PlayList&p=BF6F02B1D094378C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Tue, 3/17/09, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 9:05 PM
> The SOS of the DD20 is really a bare bones looper.  You
> press the
> pedal to record your first loop, press it again to close it
> and start
> it repeating.  Press the pedal again and you record as long
> as you
> hold it down.  No feedback control or undo so its really a
> one way
> kind of thing-forward to more.  I think the delay modes are
> probably
> more suited to looping though they have been a bit tricky
> for me to
> get comfortable with.  The simultaneous delays are pretty
> great in
> that you can record a phrase with say 90% feedback and move
> to the
> next delay bank.  The original loop will repeat and slowly
> decay
> untouched by what you're now playing as that is being
> captured in the
> second delay bank.  If you move forward once more though it
> terminates
> the first delay so you kind of need to time your feedback
> so you can
> move on without abruptly cutting off the delay (unless
> that's what you
> want).  Of course once you advance to the next delay bank
> you're stuck
> with whatever settings you had before you moved on,
> there's no going
> backwards to change the settings.   You can also use the
> on/off pedal
> to open and close a loop with the feedback set to 100% and
> mimic the
> SOS only with the option of bending down and adjusting the
> feedback to
> let the loop decay.
> 
> You can also mess with the loop length by tapping a new
> tempo once
> you've got something going and that can get kind of
> interesting.
> 
> I don't use it as much as I probably should but it has
> a lot of
> potential.  For simple looping I really prefer the DL4 but
> I can see
> how if you learned the DD20 first if could really be
> one's primary
> looper.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:39 AM, andy butler
> <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> > hi Kevin,
> > yep, I'm a Rolandophobe ;-)
> >
> > ...but now I remember Ted Killians killer dd20 moves.
> >
> > Only £110 + £psu inUK.
> >
> > At $219 + $psu in the US
> >
> > From what I heard on this list, the SOS mode
> wasn't up to much,
> > but the manual *suggests* it's possible to
> >
> > 1) tap in a loop
> > 2) overdub
> > 3) quickly erase loop and start another
> >
> > So in theory, it's a good alternative.
> >
> > Is there some hidden drawback to the SOS?
> > (i kind of remember there was, and that LDers prized
>  it for allowing 2
> > simultaneous delays)
> >
> >
> > andy
> >
> > Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
> >>
> >> You're missing the Boss DD20 which is also
> more delay than looper but
> >> has sound on sound and 23 seconds of delay with
> feedback control.
> >> $219 in the US.
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Rick Walker
> <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Okay, we are nearing a good list, here.
> >>> It would be great if someone would complete
> this list with prices
> >>> from both Southern and Northern Europe (I say
> this because prices
> >>> obviously
> >>> very greatly from the US to the UK alone)
> >>>
> >>> I purposefully didn't included pedals that
> are no longer in production
> >>> (but we could with their salient going
> prices-anyone feel like doing that
> >>> research?)
> >>> but I did include used laptop, reel to reel
> and cassette solutions.
> >>>
> >>> What are we missing anything?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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