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looping and the public and categorization
you're right of course matthias. my work would not be at all the same
if i hadn't stumbled onto looping. the tools have directly influenced
my "style"!
a coda, and then i really will shut up.....
i was just thinking about all this categorization business and realize
that a huge part of my career strategy is to never categorize myself.
if if makes sense: i very actively avoid categorization!
i avoid appealing specifically to any one group, even if i am
certainly connected to it: loopers, cellists, computer nerds, DIYers,
steampunks, goths, ravers, indie rockers, public radio fans, tall
female freckled redheads with dreadlocks, etc. i prefer to be the only
fish in my pond. if another fish moves in i tend to move out and make
another pond. so i think my perceived rejection of "looping" is
related to this. (i don't know if that's really a strategy. i've done
this my entire life and it might just be my quirky personality)
lastly....99% of the people who license my music have NO idea that i
even perform live. and as i don't employ live looping in my
recordings, for those who know me only from a recording, live looping
would just be confusing.
respect! z
On Dec 14, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Matthias Grob wrote:
> On 13 Dec 2009, at 19:51, Zoe Keating wrote:
>> if all the electricity disappeared tomorrow, i could still perform,
>> but i'd have to hire 8+ cellists to play the music (which is
>> actually how looping started for me, i couldn't find enough
>> cellists).
>
> oh, sorry, Zoe, I did not know you started with the compositions and
> then only needed a tool to execute them.
> and looping did not bring you new ideas? would your compositions
> really be the same if you had no looper but 8+ cellists?
> If so, I suspect you are rather an exception, or does anyone know of
> other composers who use looping tools like this?
>
>> it would sound different because its not me, but an ensemble of
>> cellists could easily play my music.
>
> sure. which sound would you prefer?
>
>> no electricity needed. i've already heard 2 groups do it.
>>
>> i also know of two high profile cellists who perform music with pre-
>> recorded cello tracks and them solo'ing in front. (i.e. no live
>> looping)
>>
>> most people think that we all do the same thing (including their
>> publicists). it irritates me, but tells me that its not the live
>> looping that people are hearing.
>
> ...which might be a reason for you to use the label LiveLooping more
> intensely and for me to finally bring the Livelooping.org site up to
> date with all I wrote and joined this year so anyone can easily look
> up what its about. And we should make a special chapter for
> composers who use the tool to execute what they imagine without the
> tool, as opposed to the majority who gather ideas for compositions
> by playing with the tool and then possibly execute them with a group
> without the tool.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Grob wrote:
>>
>>> your music would not be done in any other way, would it?
>>
>