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Re: Maybe why Avante-garde looping in US...

With rare exception, hip hop vocal rhythms are all subdivisions of 
standard 4/4 phrasing, and while very musically pleasing (to some, myself 
included) I would not put them in the same category of rhythmic complexity 
as balkan music where the bars constantly change beat length (4/4, 3/
4, 7/8, 5/8, 2/4, 12/8etc.).  I would not consider improvising over a 
solid 4/4 beat, where the "one" is rarely in question to be particularly 
sophisticated (opinion alert).



>Like or loathe it, hiphop's vocal 
> rhythms are often very sophisticated and its popularity is very 
> high throughout the youth culture.


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