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Re: Boomerang with Sidecar

I believe what Andy is saying is the fact that since there is a long press 
and short press function on the same button………. then the software has to 
execute the function when you release the button. If the software executed 
the short press as you depressed the button it would be impossible to ever 
have a long press.

There is noway, to my knowledge, that you can change that behavior on the 
rang3 but since we are talking about milliseconds from the click of your 
foot down to up on the boomerang style buttons it would be easy to learn 
to time the function yourself with a little practice. Especially if your 
armed with the knowledge of it's behavior. 

All that said, I don't have a rang3 to test on now (but I've used one 
before) so I could be blowing smoke. Just trying to help

On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Brian Carabee wrote:

> I'm probably misunderstanding you. You guys are far more advanced than 
> I, and my exposure to the various models of loopers is limited. Maybe 
> this is an opportunity for me to learn something. Can you tell me 
> exactly how you define "longpress" and "shortpress"?
> On the Rang, each bonus button can each be assigned both one function 
> with an immediate tap, and another function with a 1 second hold. As far 
> as I can see, no matter what the function, the tap invokes the function 
> instantaneously.
> So with the sidecar, you have a total of 4 bonus buttons that can access 
> four functions with an quick tap, and four with a 1 second hold.
> As an aside, there is now an ability to set "Stack" to "Momentary". 
> Instead of tap on, tap off, you can hold it down to stack and let it go 
> to stop stacking.
> I realize you might be rolling your eyes, LOL, because I'm 
> misunderstanding you, but I'm here to learn, so if you care to enlighten 
> me I'd be grateful.
> Brian
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:01 AM
> Subject: Re: Boomerang with Sidecar
>> hi Brian,
>> my point is not the timing of the longpress functions,
>> but that of the shortpress.
>> The function, in some cases at least, can't be activated
>> until the switch is released, rather than when it is pressed.
>> (the EDP gets round that by careful pairing of short and long functions)
>> That's the cost of having 2 functions on the button.
>> That means, if you hit half Speed it will be delayed,
>> even though it's put on a Shortpress button.
>> ..and that's a time sensitive function.
>> So, is it possible to config the bonus buttons for just
>> one instantaneous function?
>> andy
>> Brian Carabee wrote:
>>> Before my Rang arrived, I thought that would be an issue but it never 
>>> has been. The Loop buttons of course are instantaneous, and it's easy 
>>> to assign non-timing critical functions to "Hold".
>>> So, for example, I will assign things like "Once" and "Fade" to Hold, 
>>> because timing isn't critical on those. In fact, I find in actual 
>>> practice that Holding has never been an issue, to my surprise. I think 
>>> it's one of those things where in theory, it seems like Holding a 
>>> button for 1 second to invoke a function would have to present timing 
>>> problems, when in actual practice it turns out to be a non-issue.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> Brian

Todd Matthews
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