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O.K. -- I'm convinced.-- Could someone re-post the phone # of the place that's selling the Vortex unit for $150.00? Also, I'm thinking about adding another Jamman to my setup but have also been thinking about the Echoplex. However I'm a little worried that the Echoplex might not be as intuitive to use as the Jamman. Any thoughts or suggestions? Saw an add in the recent Rock and Rythm catalog for a thing called "Dimension Beam" by Interactive Light that puts out an invisible cone of infrared light. Apparantly any movement within different parts of this beam can be used to send midi signals to trigger sounds, lights etc. Anybody using this? ---Thanks. Take care.---Paul