> John Durant wrote: > > >Another area of disagreement over how useful stereo pass through can >be. As an > >example of this, my rig is set up in such a way that an Echoplex with >it's > >single jack wouldn't work. My effects run as follows: FX Out from >Maverick > >Amp>JamMan1>LXP-15>>Vortex>>JamMan2>>FX Return Maverick/Lab Series amp. > >(>=mono;>>=stereo). This allows me to make a loop in JamMan 2 which has > >effected > >sounds, and play over the top with a different set of (stereo) effects. > >Can't do > >that with a Plex. The only way to get a similar result would be to get a > >Mixer. > >More money spent. Now who's being deceptive? > > chris chimes in with his 2 cents: > > My bro and I used to use a similar setup, with the JamMan with the Art > SGX2000, which has a stereo effects loop (which occurs after all the >other > effects, in the signal path). Placing the Jam man here allowed us to >play > stereo sounds on top of mono loops -- I think this is DEFINTELY better >than > having only mono -- you can use only mono, if you want to -- and if >someone > bought the unit thinking it was a "true stereo" device, he/she better do > his/her homework a little better next time. I imagine that if the Jam >Man > were "true stereo", it would cost significantly more -- and then there'd >be > folks griping about the price. Alas, you can't please everybody. > > I'm probably not the only one who would love to provide > input/feedback/design specs for a customized looping device. And in all > fairness, I have to say that the Echoplex DP is not far off from being an > "ultimate looper", in my mind. Its MIDI implementation provides lots of > potenitals, that I have only speculated about, and have not yet explored. > It is obvious that a lot of thinking and musical experience went into its > design. And maybe, one day, the bugs will be fixed....... > > - chris > > _____________________________________________________ > Chris Chovit >firstname.lastname@example.org > AVIRIS Experiment Coordinator ph: (818) 354-8077 > JPL M/S 306-336 FAX: (818) 393-4406 > 4800 Oak Grove Dr. pager #: (800) 759-8255 PIN 834-3869 > Pasadena, CA 91109 > _____________________________________________________ I agree with Chris. At least the JamNan passes a stereo signal through. In a sense, this creates another channel (psychoacoustic at least) if your original signal is heavily in stereo. With the SGX 2000 the JamMan makes a great soloing slapback (a la Gilmore) with distorted stereo signals. Chris and I have been experimenting with a JamMans &/or Echoplexs panned to separate channels, rather than worrying about a stereo sound field for the loopers. The spacial bounce from the individual channels is very groovy. Adding a vortex or DDL to loops can create stereo images separate from the mono sources and adds to the depth and complexity of the soundscape. ALTERNTIVE PERSPECTIVE Geez, I deal with a huge-ass tangle of cables as it is; if all effects were in true stereo our hassles would be doubled!