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> > We will be elated when the people responsible for designing the next > generation of loopers become as thoughtful about the real world live > application of their creations as say Steve Klein was when he designed >his > incredible electric guitar, or the Steinway family was when they produced > the grandest of grand pianos It strikes me that these examples strive to achieve project leadership through quality materials and manufacturing of a very well designed product with little concern for PRICE. Zoom does not (self-)admittedly manufacture top of the line products, and with their impetus being toward producing COST-EFFECTIVE solutions, comparing the two above examples with a 508 is by nature kind of fallacious. > > In short, here's a test: put a Klein guitar or a Steinway piano in front >of > a five year old who has never SEEN a guitar or a piano before. With >both > instruments that said five year old will immediately get it. He will sit > down and begin strumming or plunking away, and he will accomplish this > because the Klein guitar and the Steinway piano have been adapted to make > music with the human mind and body (even a tiny one). Now put the Zoom >508 > pedal in front of that same five year old...within a very short time he > will throw it across the room. A five year old would need to have very advanced temporal-spatial faculties in order to grasp what a 508 does. The Zoom All-in-One pedals are for a rather specific market niche, and with the textural tendencies and general "big ears" of the looping community in general, are probably NOT suitable as multipurpose effects units, but rather offer a palette of limited solutions to primarily budget-minded guitarists. -- Kevin Simonson * AS/400 Application Development Team University of Illinois-Springfield * Programmer / Analyst Computer Science, et al. * Norwest Mortgage, Inc. simonson@eagle.uis.edu * Springfield, IL