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Siobhan and all, First things first, ;-) Rogue Music charged me $72 + $5 shipping for the four chips. I ordered them on Wed. and they arrived today (UPS NY->DC). Rogue's phone number is 212-629-3708. First things second, thanks for the good advice about installing the upgrade to my Jamman. I'll let you all know what happens. I'm a performer on early European wind instruments. I've been using extended techniques (multiphonics, etc.) for a while and am now moving into adding use of electronic processing. (I will post some of this for the Loopers web directory of musicians, too.) I've been working with Pauline Oliveros and consider her a strong influence on my composing/improvising. Speaking of looping, the Extended Instrument System that her Deep Listening Band uses to process their sounds is a wonderfully artful blend of delay and other dsp technologies. There's info about it at http://www.artswire.org/0h/Artswire/www/pof/EIShome.html and you can hear it on most of their recent CD's. -Tom * disciplined reading * * haiku structures perception * tbickley@artswire.org * disciplined writing *