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Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue
167
Today's Topics:
Re: VORTEX [ Kim Flint
<kflint@annihilist.com> ]
cheaply starting out [ we are all trucks
<afn39111@afn.org ]
Re: VORTEX [ Roland Eberle <roland@ccnet.com>
]
hello, yusuf [ Dtorn@aol.com ]
Re: hello, yusuf [ Leonardo Cavallo
<LEO@DINONET.IT> ]
Re: hello, yusuf [ Kim Flint
<kflint@annihilist.com> ]
Re: MIDI Light controllers [ Charles Cohen
<ccohen@voicenet.com> ]
Re: hello, yusuf [ paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul
Poplawski, ]
Vortex wall wart [ "Bruce Gerow"
<bgerow@ny.tds.net> ]
Re: Lexicon address [ Randy Jones <ranjones@texas.net>
]
Re: Vortex wall wart [ Kim Flint
<kflint@annihilist.com> ]
Re: cheaply starting out [ BlkSwan03@aol.com ]
Re: cheaply starting out [ Dave Stagner
<dstagner@icarus.net> ]
GEAR INFO [ Leonardo Cavallo
<LEO@DINONET.IT> ]
Re: GEAR INFO [ "Marc Roche"
<govinda@cyber-dyne.co ]
Re: GEAR INFO [ "c.voit" <c.voit@vtx.ch> ]
Re: GEAR INFO [ "c.voit" <c.voit@vtx.ch> ]
Re: cheaply starting out [ buzzard@world.std.com (Sean T
Barre ]
boomerang [ Monkici@aol.com ]
Re: boomerang [ "Mikell D. Nelson"
<mnelson@dmans.c ]
jamman upgrade [ "nicomonguzzi"
<nicomonguzzi@vtx.ch ]
Re: boomerang [ Grover Sheffield
<gls@mindspring.co ]
Re: seasons & music [ mark sottilaro
<msottila@mailbox.sy ]
Multi-effects Unit [ Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)
]
Re: Multi-effects Unit [ "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net> ]
Re: Multi-effects Unit [ floyd@voicenet.com ]
Re: Multi-effects Unit [ Dpcoffin@aol.com ]
RE: Lexicon address [ "Hogan, Greg"
<ghogan@lexicon.com> ]
Re: Multi-effects Unit [ "Mikell D. Nelson"
<mnelson@dmans.c ]
Re: Multi-effects Unit [ Paolo Valladolid
<pvallado@wayneswo ]
Re: Re: Multi-effects Unit [ Marzzz@aol.com ]
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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 14:47:11 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: VORTEX
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At 8:22 AM -0700 10/4/97, Julia & Dave wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. Lexicon PSUs are
>really pricey. we're talking about $50, and yes they are available
>only from Lexicon unless you have access to a real good parts
>supplier.
ya, ha ha! Anyone want to start the "wall warts, evil tools of Satan"
thread again?
My Jameco catalog has these for $5.49, P/N 102234, 1-800-831-4242,
http://www.jameco.com. Connector is 2.1mm x 5.5mm female, don't know if
that's right. They also sell all the numerous styles of jacks for about
$.50 each.
Lexicon (and all the other mfg using wallwarts) pay about $2 or less for
these flimsy pieces of hum-radiating garbage, btw. And no, that usually
doesn't translate into lower prices for you the poorly-informed consumer.
Capitalism is so cool!
kim
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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 18:15:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: we are all trucks <afn39111@afn.org>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: cheaply starting out
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.971004181235.73602B-100000@freenet2.afn.org>
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I think I asked this before, but I didn't get a whole lot of reply.
I'm thinking about getting into looping, because some of the stuff I can
dink out on piano strike me as sounding really cool made into a fullblown
atonal loop. But I don't have a whole lot of cash.
So what's suggestions? If I had the knowhow, I'd consider building my own
analog machine, but even with instructions I can't understand what the hell
I'm doing. Machinery is way beyond my skills. But I'm looking for the
best
way to start out.
"You're such a wonderful person, it's insanity.
But you've got problems. the asylum:
I'll never touch you." (David Bowie) http://www.afn.org/~afn39111
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Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 16:00:26 -0700
From: Roland Eberle <roland@ccnet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: VORTEX
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Julia & Dave wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. Lexicon PSUs are
> really pricey. we're talking about $50, and yes they are available
> only from Lexicon unless you have access to a real good parts
> supplier.
>
> As far as footswitches are concerned, you'll have to find one
> with a TRS output. Lexicon uses RE-AN footswitch circuits;
> they are a British company that makes all the nice plastic
> connectors you see on the back of your lexicons and most
> european gear.
>
> Hope this helps a little.
>
> D 4 V 1 D K R 1 5 T 1 4 N
>
> "Echo is Instant Nostalgia"
>
> jndk@colba.net
>
> http://www.total.net/~alien8/Kristian.html
>
> ----------
> > From: Bruce Gerow <bgerow@ny.tds.net>
> > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> > Subject: VORTEX
> > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 10:35 AM
> >
> > Hi Loopers and Loopets,
> > Can anyone suggest sources and/or perhaps know of prices for
> power
> supplys
> > (wall Warts) that are good for the Lexicon Vortex.The unit says 9v
> AC at
> 1
> > amp.It also says use Lexicon msa ac adapter.Are they available from
> > Lexicon?Also looking for footswitches.
> > Thanks,
> > LooseBruce
Not true...Lexicon sells power supplies for about $11.00 plus s/h...one
of the few things they dont gouge for IMHO(I've bought 3)
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:16:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dtorn@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: hello, yusuf
Message-ID: <971004231344_1890999842@emout08.mail.aol.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
yo!
thasall, just:
hiya!
best (au le rue),
dt
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:11:53 +0200
From: Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: hello, yusuf
Message-ID: <19971005091152156.AAA96@Default>
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At 23.16 04/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
>yo!
>thasall, just:
>hiya!
>best (au le rue),
>dt
>
>
Hi david
I don't know if you're a subscriber of this list or just casual.... but I'm
really happy to have you here now.
ciao
leo
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 02:07:46 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: hello, yusuf
Message-Id: <v03102805b05d09477e35@[207.171.198.48]>
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At 11:16 PM -0400 10/4/97, Dtorn@aol.com wrote:
>yo!
>thasall, just:
>hiya!
>best (au le rue),
>dt
oh David, you're such a tease!
kim
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 12:59:21 -0400
From: Charles Cohen <ccohen@voicenet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: MIDI Light controllers
Message-ID: <3437C768.CB2@voicenet.com>
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Buchla Lightning Controller:
http://www.buchla.com/
--
**** What's Charles up to? ****
http://www.voicenet.com/~ccohen
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:47:53 -0400
From: paulpop@ssnet.com (Paul Poplawski, Ph.D.)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: hello, yusuf
Message-Id: <v01520d01b05dd7861283@[208.212.178.222]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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and you bro ... best back to ya
any sylvian developments with ya
>yo!
>thasall, just:
>hiya!
>best (au le rue),
>dt
Paul Poplawski, Ph.D.
email = ppoplawski@state.de.us or paulpop@ssnet.com
phone service = 302/737-4491
weekday office = 302/577-4980
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 03:14:40 -0400
From: "Bruce Gerow" <bgerow@ny.tds.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Vortex wall wart
Message-Id: <199710060119.UAA07026@mail.tds.net>
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Someone was kind enough to send me the address and phone for Lexicon but
the Devil mede me delete it.Any chance you could send it again?I want to
order a wall wart for Vortex.
Thanks,
LooseBruce
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 09:04:36 -0500
From: Randy Jones <ranjones@texas.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Lexicon address
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971005090435.0097f100@texas.net>
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Hello,
Lexicon Inc.
100 Beaver Street :-)
Waltham MA 02154
Tele 617-736-0300
Fax 617-891-0340
Randy
At 03:14 AM 10/2/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Someone was kind enough to send me the address and phone for Lexicon but
>the Devil mede me delete it.Any chance you could send it again?I want to
>order a wall wart for Vortex.
> Thanks,
> LooseBruce
>
>
>
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:46:08 -0700
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Vortex wall wart
Message-Id: <v03102801b05e2b093258@[207.171.198.38]>
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At 3:14 AM -0400 10/2/97, Bruce Gerow wrote:
>Someone was kind enough to send me the address and phone for Lexicon but
>the Devil mede me delete it.Any chance you could send it again?I want to
>order a wall wart for Vortex.
> Thanks,
> LooseBruce
Greg Hogan, Lex's customer service person, reads the list regularly and
will probably help you first thing Monday. He's pretty good about that.
email: <ghogan@lexicon.com>
kim
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 03:18:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: BlkSwan03@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: cheaply starting out
Message-ID: <971006031826_1075688463@emout01.mail.aol.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
There really is no ultimately satisfying cheap way. I'd say: Get
ambitious,
mow some lawns, start a lemonade stand, work a geek job or two, whatever,
just to get enough to get an Oberheim Echoplex. It sounds the best, can be
memory expanded for very long loop times (you could do an entire piece.)
and
if it has the current software update it can be mated with another one and
sync in stereo. this is amazing. The only other thing would be the
Boomerang. It's less expensive but has lower fidelity and is not as
expansive.
Hope this helps a bit.
Jim
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:36:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: cheaply starting out
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971006093214.19005A-100000@icarus.icarus.net>
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Just get a delay. ANY delay. Used Digitech and Boss delays with up to
two seconds of memory are dirt cheap, well under $100. The little Zoom
delay thing costs less than $150, and is programmable, tap tempo, etc.
You do NOT need an Oberheim Echoplex or a full-blown tape looping rig in
order to do looping! A cheap stomp box with infinite repeat is enough to
get you started. My first looper didn't even have that... it was just a
Boss pitch shifter/delay with 1.7 seconds of delay. Made a lot of good
music with it.
-dave
By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete.
Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly.
Venus De Milo.
To a child she is ugly. /* dstagner@icarus.net */
-Charles Fort
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:14:04 +0200
From: Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: GEAR INFO
Message-ID: <19971006151403703.AAA222@Default>
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Hi all
sorry, this is not really loop related... so e-mail me privately.
ANyone knows Ram Specs for Akai S1000 sampler? I'd like to upgrade mine but
it seems not so cheap from AKAI...
And what about pc sound cards? How is the SB 64 Gold? Any suggestions about
other models ?
thanks in advance
leo
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:21:15 -0700
From: "Marc Roche" <govinda@cyber-dyne.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Re: GEAR INFO
Message-Id: <199710061626.JAA07898@marge.cyber-dyne.com>
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check out Yamaha sb sucks
----------
> From: Leonardo Cavallo <LEO@DINONET.IT>
> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> Subject: GEAR INFO
> Date: Monday, October 06, 1997 8:14 AM
>
>
> Hi all
>
> sorry, this is not really loop related... so e-mail me privately.
>
> ANyone knows Ram Specs for Akai S1000 sampler? I'd like to upgrade mine
but
> it seems not so cheap from AKAI...
>
> And what about pc sound cards? How is the SB 64 Gold? Any suggestions
about
> other models ?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> leo
>
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 19:32:19 +0100
From: "c.voit" <c.voit@vtx.ch>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: GEAR INFO
Message-ID: <34392E64.506D6040@vtx.ch>
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Leo
Turtle beach pinnacle
Exept the minijack plugs this card is far from crap
You can load wawes in sample ram ( cheap simms) up to 48 megs make your
key map then you have the kurzweil architecture to tweak your sound
the patch editor is on the TB site. have a look even without the card
I bought the card almost a year ago and the updates/grades have been
constant
It works fine with cubase (from the first day)
for almost nothing you get digital in/out
manual is informative
Lot of FAQ on line
support : never got a human reply but I found the answers on the
mailback helps
tip: you better install it non PnP
As I'm not working for them I'll stop now
Claude
PS: SB yerk :=(
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 19:32:25 +0100
From: "c.voit" <c.voit@vtx.ch>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: GEAR INFO
Message-ID: <34392EB9.97C2C20A@vtx.ch>
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Leo
Turtle beach pinnacle
Exept the minijack plugs this card is far from crap
You can load wawes in sample ram ( cheap simms) up to 48 megs make your
key map then you have the kurzweil architecture to tweak your sound
the patch editor is on the TB site. have a look even without the card
I bought the card almost a year ago and the updates/grades have been
constant
It works fine with cubase (from the first day)
for almost nothing you get digital in/out
manual is informative
Lot of FAQ on line
support : never got a human reply but I found the answers on the
mailback helps
tip: you better install it non PnP
As I'm not working for them I'll stop now
Claude
PS: SB yerk :=(
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:11:52 -0400
From: buzzard@world.std.com (Sean T Barrett)
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: cheaply starting out
Message-Id: <199710061811.AA21298@world.std.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
People asked recently about the DFX94 from DOD, and
I thought I'd comment quickly on my issues with it,
as it also is relevent from the standpoint of "cheaply
starting out" (a little over $100 new).
Good:
4 second delay
you can dynamically adjust delay time of an existing
loop, speeding it up/slowing it down. This is even
useful musically, not just as FX, since you can (with
effort) change speed by a factor of 2, which changes
the pitch by an octave
supports both a delay mode (pedal turns on&off delay effect)
and a "hold" model (pedal on: infinite repeat, can't layer;
pedal off, decays according to feedback, you can layer),
and you can switch between the two modes without losing
the loop (but have to turn a knob)
It also supports a mode which samples, then triggers on
footpresses, but I've never even tested that it works.
Bad, compared to other pedals I've used:
Max feedback setting is not very high. Stuff fades out
pretty quickly. And so there's lots of stuff you can't
do... e.g. I used to love letting a loop fade out,
then turn feedback > 100% and bringing the loop back,
sounding heavily altered.
Other issues:
No wet/dry mix (just delay level, effectively always at
least 50% dry)--I'm not sure I've ever seen a pedal
that wasn't this way.
Dunno whether it's really noisy; I've never tried isolating
it from my other effects to see.
As to how effective a looper it is, I'd say that I always
had a lot of fun with it. However, I just got a JamMan,
and I would have to say that even with the same loop
durations, I'm creating entirely different textures due
to the ability to set feedback to 100% (or just under).
On the other hand with the JamMan, I'm disappointed about
the tradeoff between echo and loop modes: echo is the only
mode that allows feedback < 100%, but loop mode is the only
way to do a "replace" (not to mention multiple loops).
On the DFX I do this in infinite repeat mode by setting
feedback to 0, then "punching in" and back out (feedback
is ignored while the loop is holding). I guess with the JamMan
if I got a MIDI footpedal I could trigger the appropriate
feedback-setting-commands in echo mode at least. (Or I may
be missing something, I've only had it a few days.)
I also wish I could make the reset/bypass footswitch mean
"select in the other direction", since as it stands
I find the select footswitch useless during performance.
Oops, this turned into a whine about the JamMan. Sorry.
Sean Barrett
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:33:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Monkici@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: boomerang
Message-ID: <971006152928_878539646@emout12.mail.aol.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
i keep seeing "boomerang" showing up and i'm wondering if any one has a
phone
number or web address for this company.
thanks, ric
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 15:19:40 -0500
From: "Mikell D. Nelson" <mnelson@dmans.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: boomerang
Message-ID: <343947DC.510A@dmans.com>
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> i keep seeing "boomerang" showing up and i'm wondering if any one has a
>phone
> number or web address for this company.
Hi Ric,
Here's the schtick, and thanks for your interest in the Boomerang
Phrase Sampler.
Boomerang Musical Products
PO Box 541595
Dallas, TX 75354-1595
Tel 800-530-4699
Fax 214-343-1038
email mnelson@dmans.com
web page http://www.boomerangmusic.com
Mike Nelson, co-owner
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 00:28:13 +0100
From: "nicomonguzzi" <nicomonguzzi@vtx.ch>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: jamman upgrade
Message-ID: <33C02A07.E33FAA7D@vtx.ch>
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ciao a tutti, hello everybody,
i just discovered the looper's delight and =85 nice work folks
i'm a drummer/percussionist and play with a guitarist, we use two jamman=
synchronised,
after a few problems we finally found the way.
any news about the upgrade? it will be available in europe (switzerland)?=
sorry for my english
bye nicos :-)
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 20:00:59 -0500
From: Grover Sheffield <gls@mindspring.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: boomerang
Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19971007010059.0067f030@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
At 03:33 PM 10/6/97 -0400, you wrote:
>i keep seeing "boomerang" showing up and i'm wondering if any one has a
>phone
>number or web address for this company.
>
>thanks, ric
>
Ric,
Boomerang Musical Products 1-800-530-4699
PO Box 54595
Dallas, TX 75354-1595>
web page Boomerangmusic.com
Grover
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 22:14:51 -0500
From: mark sottilaro <msottila@mailbox.syr.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: seasons & music
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A little thought on this subject again, now that we've had a few chilly
days here in upstate NY. I find that I do listen to more ambient music
in the winter. It is probably due to the increased reading that I have
to do for school. I find it hard to concentrate on difficult material
when I'm listening to music with lyrics or strong themes. Ambient is
perfect for setting that sonic environment for studying.
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:51:55 -0400
From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata)
To: 'Loopers Delight' <loopers-delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Multi-effects Unit
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I'm thinking about getting a new multi-effects unit to patch into my =
SansAmp PSA-1 preamp and the rest of my looping rig. I'm currently =
using a Peavey ProFex Mark 1.
Any suggestions in the low, medium and high price ranges?
Thanks,
Mark Kata
Mark@asisoftware.com
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:19:33 -0700
From: "Julia & Dave" <jndk@colba.net>
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Subject: Re: Multi-effects Unit
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In the lower price range I'd recommend the Zoom Studio 1204. It has
I think about 512 presets, you can tweak and store the effects you create,
the tweaking done with knobs, and there is a nice 10 band vocoder in there
as well with a 1/4 input at the front of the unit (full 1U rackmount).
I don't work for Zoom, but I sure like their price/performance ratio.
Oh, and this I think sells for under $200 US.
later,
D 4 V 1 D K R 1 5 T 1 4 N
"Echo is Instant Nostalgia"
jndk@colba.net
http://www.total.net/~alien8/Kristian.html
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From: Mark Kata <Mark@asisoftware.com>
To: 'Loopers Delight' <loopers-delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Multi-effects Unit
Date: Tuesday, October 07, 1997 4:51 AM
I'm thinking about getting a new multi-effects unit to patch into my
SansAmp PSA-1 preamp and the rest of my looping rig. I'm currently using a
Peavey ProFex Mark 1.
Any suggestions in the low, medium and high price ranges?
Thanks,
Mark Kata
Mark@asisoftware.com
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Date: 7 Oct 1997 13:45:35 -0000
From: floyd@voicenet.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Multi-effects Unit
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Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) asked:
> I'm thinking about getting a new multi-effects unit to patch into my =
> SansAmp PSA-1 preamp and the rest of my looping rig. I'm currently =
> using a Peavey ProFex Mark 1.
>
> Any suggestions in the low, medium and high price ranges?
I love my Dynacord DRP-15 (distributed by electrovoice).
It's not cheap but it's algorithms and sound quality are wonderful.
And of course there's the effervescent Lexicon LXP-5. Maybe it's getting
a little long in the tooth but it's a great unit if you can still find
them.
It has nice echo, delay, and pitch special effects programs. The user
interface is simple for making quick changes.
- Floyd Miller
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:52:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dpcoffin@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Multi-effects Unit
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<<I'm thinking about getting a new multi-effects unit to patch into my
SansAmp PSA-1 preamp and the rest of my looping rig. I'm currently using a
Peavey ProFex Mark 1.>>
My opinions, with emphasis on outside rather than meat'n'potatoes:
Low end ($100-something): MANY choices....check out the Zoom 1201
Mid (under $1K): Again, MANY options....I'd check Alesis Quad GT, Ensoniq
DP2, Boss GT-5 (my pick...in addition to the COSM preamps, a SERIOUS fx
noise-maker, with ring mod, acoustic emulation, monosynths, an fx loop, and
very cool delay looping -- under 2 sec, of course...more details upon
application)
High-mid (under $2K): Lex MPX-1 (sounds great, fantastic control options,
but
slow to change patches, and underpowered if you like long stereo fx
chains),
TC G-Force (ditto for the MPX pluses but neither of the minuses; the
price-performance leader--and an audio knock-out!)
High End (over $2K)...well, there's nothing in the same class with the
$3500
Eventide GTR4000.
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:24:06 -0400
From: "Hogan, Greg" <ghogan@lexicon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: RE: Lexicon address
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Randy kindly informed the list of our contact information being:
> Lexicon Inc.
> 100 Beaver Street :-)
> Waltham MA 02154
> Tele 617-736-0300
> Fax 617-891-0340
>
We moved in November our current contact inormation is: Lexicon, Inc
3 Oak Park
Bedford MA 01730
Tele 781-280-0300
FAX 781-280-0499
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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 12:12:01 -0500
From: "Mikell D. Nelson" <mnelson@dmans.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Multi-effects Unit
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I use a Yamaha G10 pedal; it's discontinued, but can be found for
around $250 used. Pros: very transparent to the through signal (adds no
color), small, has an assignable expression pedal, good chorus & digital
delay, ok flange, ok compression, ok wah wah (programmable), can
function as volume pedal, easy to program. Cons: pitch shift is cheesy,
has no reverbs, pedal cannot be assigned to delay time or chorus depth
(only mix or level). The unit also has distortions, amp simulator, and
EQ, which I don't use. I put it in the effects loop of my amp and it
sounds great.
When I've shopped for effects gear I try out many products, but always
seem to gravitate to Yamaha for value: good sound & reliabilty for a
reasonable price. On the other hand Digitech and Art stuff always seems
to disappoint me. I bought 3 Digitech RP6's and they never could get me
one that worked; sounded cheesy anyway. This is the third different
Yamaha product I've had.
> I'm thinking about getting a new multi-effects unit to patch into my
>SansAmp PSA-1 preamp and the rest of my looping rig. I'm currently using
>a Peavey ProFex Mark 1.
>
> Any suggestions in the low, medium and high price ranges?
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paolo Valladolid <pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Multi-effects Unit
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> I'm thinking about getting a new multi-effects unit to patch into my =
> SansAmp PSA-1 preamp and the rest of my looping rig. I'm currently =
> using a Peavey ProFex Mark 1.
>
> Any suggestions in the low, medium and high price ranges?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark Kata
> Mark@asisoftware.com
As far as the high end goes, the Eventide Harmonizer 3000 and 4000
series are the most powerful processors of which I have heard.
They let you construct your own effects out of building blocks such
as summers, multipliers, etc. They also allow a lot of realtime
control via MIDI. I think some of them also support the control of
effects parameters by input dynamics - that is, how loud/soft you
play your instrument.
Comparable in power might be the Kyma/Capybara system but this is not
as compact or as portable as a single Eventide box because it requires
a desktop computer.
The VG8 is also a powerful unit, but in a different fashion.
Links to websites describing the above can be found at the Digital
Guitar Links page:
http://waynesworld.ucsd.edu/DigitalGuitar/links.html
Paolo Valladolid
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:26:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Marzzz@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: Re: Multi-effects Unit
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In a message dated 10/7/97 1:34:05 PM, pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu wrote:
>Comparable in power might be the Kyma/Capybara system but this is not
>as compact or as portable as a single Eventide box because it requires
>a desktop computer.
The Kyma System will now work with a PC Card in a laptop. Still a bit
expensive, but immensely powerful.....
Marshall
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