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I usually end up with something in the 4 bar / 16 beat range. That is probably around the same 7-12 second range you state. When I'm in delay mode is where I really get into longer time values. BTW, I'm a 32 sec JamMan user. -Miko ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Loop Length Author: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) at INTERNET Date: 12/5/97 1:11 PM This may sound like a silly question since the trend is toward longer looping times, but what is your favorite length of loop? I usually gravitate toward an 8-10 second loop, however, there are times when I can barely make due with the 32 seconds provided by my Jamman. Occasionally, I find extremely short loops (under 500 milliseconds) to be fun, too. Mark Kata Mark@asisoftware.com