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Leo, I use a Mackie 1604 mixer: Guitar -->stereo preamp/effects --> Mixer input channels Microphone --> mixer input channel effect sends, routed to loopers, delays and vortex All of these units' outputs are routed back into mixer channels 4 mixer busses: 2 busses --> stereo guitar, & looper signals route to boogie 50/50 tube amp w/ 1x12" thiele cabinets (w/ celestion greenbacks) 2 busses --> microphone, vortex, & delays get routed to full range PA (currently using home stereo system) Also, I sync the echoplexes to sequencer playing drum rhythms from Roland R8M, whose signal gets routed to full range PA. The combination of guitar tube amp/speaker w/ full range PA creates a LARGE, KILLER sound! Unfortunately, this requires a 4 buss mixer....Anyone know of a well-built, reasonably priced, compact, rack-mountable line mixer w/ at least 4 fx sends and 4 busses?? The only thing I know like this is the Mackie LM3204, and it is not a true 4-buss, is not quite compact (5 rack spaces), and costs 6 or 7 hundred $. Along these lines, I recently picked up a Q-MIX Headphone "Matrix" amp by Oz Audio. This unit has 1 stereo input and 4 mono inputs, all of which can be routed to any of 6 stereo outputs. So, effectively, this is a 6 buss (stereo!) mixer. All it would need are multiple fx loops (this unit does have one) -- say 6 of them! Imagine running 6 loopers, into any of 6 stereo outputs (six stereo PAs could be spread throughout the venue/installation setting. Great possibilities! (Too bad my wallet can't keep up with my imagination). Anyone trying something like this? chris