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kim said: >You might want to try the Rocktron All Access pedal. It looks to me like >the >most powerful and rugged pedal out there, although the price is quite a >bit >higher. ($500?) The people I know who don't pay much attention to the >price >tag all seem to use the Rocktron. I'm not sure if it does what you're >looking for though. kim, I checked into the All Access and the list price on that sucker is $999, so I'm guessing the street price is $600 (ouch!) or more. Does anyone know for sure? Also on Rocktron's Web site there is a manual for the All Access available to download in pdf format (Adobe Acrobat) so if anyone more knowledgeable than myself wants to check it out and report back as to whether this thing has all the capabilities needed, I know I'd appreciate it. I'd love to check out a PMC-10, but I think the problem there is finding one, and then if you do, crossing your fingers and hoping you don't get one with the memory crashing problem or a faulty hand held programmer. I've done some Web searching for this unit but I've had no luck so far. This will probably take time, patience, persistance and luck to find one of these. ric hordinski mentioned the rfc-1 midigator. How does this unit stack up feature wise to these other units? There is also a Yamaha Midi unit, that seemed at the time I checked on it, to have a lot of features but I don't remember the model #. I do remember downloading some info about it from Yamaha's Web site. I also remember I hated the display which consisted of Patch/preset numbers and that was all, no patch naming. Finally, one other MIDI controller which I am aware of, is the PC-1600x from Peavey. Now I've never been a big Peavey fan, but this seems to be an incredibly deep controller, however as a guitarist this unit won't work for me because it is a desk/table top controller. It has 16 buttons along the bottom with a slider/fader over each of the buttons. The buttons can be configured to work various ways (toggle or momentary, etc) and the sliders can be assigned to send various MIDI info as well. There is info about this device readily available at the Peavey web site if someone wants to check it out. I don't know the price of the PC-1600x but a friend of mine got one at a music store blowout for $200. Anyway it's sad that the one of the most feature laden as well as possibly most affordable but maybe not as roadworthy units (PMC-10) is no longer being made. I'd like to compare all of these units and see what shakes out as far as features, price, and availability. Maybe the market is ripe for someone to come out with a top notch affordable MIDI controller or maybe the market is so small, that's why the PMC-10 and the rfc-1 midigator are no longer around and the All Access costs so much? Ed