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Just looked in on the list for the first time in a *long* while, and thought I'd chime in with something helpful for a change. . . In the same ballpark as LiSa is Generator, from Native Instruments. It's *much* more flexible than LiSa. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten the ADC module to work yet, and they're not sure what's wrong. . . so I haven't tried the looping capabilities yet. Anyway, (assuming they can get the problem fixed), you can do things like create 8 synced stereo loopers, with changable ratios of loop lengths (e.g., one loop looping in 5 and one in 7), with the ratio and levels and record state of each controlled by yer Peavey 1600 MIDI fader box. Sync them to a set of virtual sequencers each driving a virtual MiniMoog. Save and restore setups for each song to disk. Etc. Imagine the Peavey 1600 fader box set up with 8 pairs of faders, one pair for each looper. Left fader of the pair controls how long the loop is, continuously or in beats (whichever you like), right one controls level. Left button turns on record when the next beat comes around. Looper automatically stops recording when the set loop length or number of beats is over (no more trying to tap just at the right moment.) Right button mutes the channel (or whatever you want). As much loop memory as yer PC has (yeah I know, I'm a Mac fan, too). Throw in real-time processing on each of the loops, as well (e.g., chorusing, stereo crossfades, FM between two signals, whatever). I haven't messed with my faderbox enough to know, but it seems like you could set it up to switch between a number of sets of midi channel assignments, so you could flip the faderboard between controlling the loops, and controlling the processing, as you were performing. http://www.native-instruments.de/ I'll let folks know once I've got it working. ------------- Note: my email address is hacked as an anti-spam measure. Please remove the 'no-spam-' to reply to me. Sorry for the inconvenience. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "New music is not a style, it is a quality" - Robert Fripp, as scratched in the Sacred Songs LP runout grooves