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I just saw a new film at the Berlin Film Festival yesterday called "Modulations" by Iara Lee. It's a documentary which deals with how techno, d'n'b, jungle, ambient music etc. developed and how the technology which made it possible. It also retraces some of the roots of electronic music. I think all of you who found any of the last threads (looping as sin, limits of an instrument, expression through "sound shaping") interesting will definitely enjoy the film. If any of you dug "Step Across the Border" with Fred Frith, you'll probably get into this too (although the latter has much cooler cinematography). One of the funniest scenes is with Squarepusher (T. Jenkins) in his tiny bedroom talking "gear". He pulls some ancient mini- sampler thing (sorry, forgot what it was) from amongst his dirty laundry with which he claims to have made most of the sounds on his last CD. Basically EVERYONE from Coldcut to Roni Size (he seemed to be rather, uh, "baked") to LJT Bukem to DJ Spooky to Oval to Orbital to Alec Empire to Can to Stockhausen (great) to Pierre Schaefer to the Moog guy to Teo Macero (Miles Columbia sessions) to Bill Laswell to David Toop to Alvin Toffler (remember "Future Shock"?) is featured in the film. The latter said something funny to the effect of "We in the western civilization are great at solving problems by breaking them into tiny little pieces. We just aren't very good at putting them back together". OK, Alvin you're an eternal pessimist. Oh Oh, better stop - I noticed the scroll bar moving ... Rob