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This whole "my wife listens exclusively to Ratt and/or John Tesh and doesn't understand me and is frightened by my music" thing is kind of uncomfortable. I'm sorry you guys married un-adventurous listeners, and I'm glad you can commiserate. However, before you tar all women with the same condescending brush... [Gloat Mode] ...I would point out that I often eat lunch with a beautiful young woman (you might know her, actually) and we talk about Fripp, van der Graaf Generator, the nerdy details of miking drums and placing them in a mix, chordal harmony, subtle timbral differences in backwards waveforms, microtonalism, etc. Her roommate, another beautiful young woman, is a Crafty and a total prog-head. And my Stick-playing buddy Steve's wife wrote her doctoral dissertation on the music of Gentle Giant. All of those people live within a quick bike ride from me [/Gloat Mode] I'm quite used to not finding ANYONE, male or female, musician or non-musician, who shares my taste for Happy Family and Djam Karet and obscure Bruford solo albums and rare PFM import vinyl and Glenn Branca discs. Sure, I'll evangelize the hell out of avant/experimental/progressive/weird music to anyone I think might enjoy it. Bnd I don't hold it against anyone if they don't--I accept the fact that *I* am the freak. And Bob Forbid I should come across as one more sanctimonious prog rock dickhead--the last thing art music needs is a brotherhood of smug elitists carrying the torch. Scott Bullerwell tanelorn@dimensional.com Boulder, Colorado, USA