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( Usually ) And simply, DJ's are about the breakdown and microfragmentation of everything. Because often the intent and purpose & context are explicitly different >from the original primary sources of sampling. The purpose of a band in the traditional sense and a hip hop or dj oriented artist can be the same in the end but the contexts and approaches are often miles apart with bands or traditional musicians putting a lot of emphasis on their approaches and losing sight of where to let go of their analyzations and traditional expectations. W/ Djing, obviously The concern isn't on being a virtuoso in traditonal musical senses. Nor is the emphasis on using someone elses moods to actualize your own groove - Its about how to effectively bend or adapt things - sounds or better yet fragments of something typically or atypically associative to your own perspective then letting go of it and letting it roll on its on steam. Most Critics and the public get off on that piece of the picture alone. The samples are important but not all encompassing vehicles that ultimately take a back seat to whatever groove a slammin DJ's got it flowin. (IMHO) The whole process is geared centered behind the idea that music belongs to no one ever...no matter who or how greatly an artist may be revered or extolled. That tennet in and of itself is enuff to make a lot of folks cringe or perhaps not be able to appreciate its beauty. Most bands are usually 90% of the time about the buildup and construction. People and critics care passionately about DJ or sample oriented stuff's potential for deliverance & or reinforcement ( like a lot of music scenes do ) of its values and look to its immersion to pull away from what isn't perceived as needed. Its also deeply sexual and sensual and sometimes just downright crude. It's a reflection of the street and a persons need to constantly have a good hustle goin that is both flexible, quick, direct and relevant to the world in which ya exist or quickly expire. Right now street pictures are what is being asked for over and over again. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Bullerwell [SMTP:tanelorn@dimensional.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 11:14 AM To: Looper's Delight Subject: electronica double standard? matthew hahn wrote: >I have to agree on the subject of DJing. I am not knocking it, but in >deference to looping I'm willing to submit that DJing is more emotional >than technical, more creation of moods from other people's music, than >creating one's own. Interesting... You might make the same observation about any number of non-electronica bands that play essentially recycled or nostalgic music (Porcupine Tree, for example.) It's kosher in music criticism to knock bands that sound too much like older bands, but electronica/sampling/remixing is seemingly exempt from that criticism. I don't think I understand why that is. Anyone? Scott Bullerwell tanelorn@dimensional.com Boulder, Colorado, USA