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93 I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my questions. Good stuff all! In my many years of amateur, semi-pro and pro performance experience, I've played with a *lot* of different bands, in a *lot* of different settings. My main experience has been, of course, that you try to play to the audience that you have, and that you should have *some* idea of what they will probably want. The interesting thing to me is, what do you do if you are faced with a "blind" situation, i.e. you don't know what the audience will be like? If you are looping, certainly an experimental venue will likely garner more listeners than a wedding gig will. Example: I used to play with a regionally very popular world-beat band in Kansas City, called BCR. We could pack 'em quite nicely at the clubs we would play. We were known to a large extent as a dance band (though we did play a lot of non-dance material). One time we played a wedding reception and could not get people to dance no matter what we did. And, even though we played at a low volume level (for a ten member band!), people kept leaving the room to go "talk". Now, the bride and groom, who hired us, danced and listened, and a few of their younger friends did as well, but all of the older people left the room! The point is, unless you always play it "safe" and only play where you *know* what you are doing will be accepted, occasionally you *will* run into a dud where you will drive people away instead of draw them in. Loopers, like most experimental musicians, are more likely to face this than a dance band will, (although as someone pointed out, if Michael Bolten were to play the Knitting Factory, would anyone stick around?) Since the amount of truely "experimental" venues will be limited, if a looper wants to share his/her music, they will need to try to play more "mainstream" venues. Now, since most "mainstream" venues will tend to cater to an audience with "mainstream" taste, what do you do? Here are a few idea off the top of my head. Keep in mind I would *never* suggest someone compromise their artistic integrity. 1. Loop covers! I do a weird loop cover of Gymnopedie #1 by Erik Satie, though perhaps a cover of Purple Haze might be a bigger hit. 2. Drums! Dance beats! Either Meester Drum Machine, or a drummer with a click or somesuch. 3. Cute girls/guys on stage! I'm doing a show soon with a dancer. Oughta be good. Stage charisma is something to not be overlooked. If you yourself don't have it, get someone up there with you who does! 4. Lights! Sets! Weird Costumes! Anyway, more later when I think of it! 93 Rev. DOubt-Goat _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com