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maybe just a word about looping with guitars? please? OK, I do think that the future of looping is in the interface. That is the control and the focus, the question of what you can do is important, but if you want more sales, it's clear utmost ease/control/flexibility is going to be needed. That is the history of music since the beginnings of notation, through the piano, through recordings, widespread distribution of media, for all too consume. Leading to computers which can through software enable detailed controls of architecture. I think we have to look at the bones of a sampler, a computer, and how easily we want to relate. brown25 brought up some points about how production while somewhat static in DAW did offer quite a lot even to someone who isn't trained in making music. It becomes the art of constructs. But then you have talent such as virtuoso guitar players that like to loop to no end and talk mostly about guitars, and fuzzy things. So where do the two meet? I think if you plug a monitor into the Echoplex that would be something, just direct boom. For live performance. You could see sound mapped and consider if you wanted to do something about it by studying sounds you liked and didn't. By visually catagorizing, a way could be created to choose loops like and move them on the fly, shifts. All onscreen. You could even have a foot pedal to control it, if you were so inclined? Just build a second layer into the Echoplex foot pedal already, flip switch boom, we're into the batcave batman! THis wouldn't elude the hardware either. It would provide perhaps a very simple set of commands which mirror those you believe would most be helped by becoming visual. Overdubb might be one. You could see the chords and keep track of how many overdubbs and how much memory perhaps easier by seeing it on screen, and you cut and move when ready. Just a suggestion. Mjh