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At 11:38 AM 4/22/98, klaw@iglou.com wrote: >Im a little surprised no one mentions Oval on this list. >Their music definately incorporates looping & some bizarre manipulation. I got their "Dok" CD on Thrill Jockey at the same time I got the Tony Conrad. I haven't given it more than a casual listen, but it seems pretty interesting. I heard some earlier material that strictly used skipping CD players as sound sources. Also, the new Tortoise disc "TNT" uses some fairly subtle looping. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________