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In a message dated 98-04-24 15:23:50 EDT, you write: << I've been participating for over 6 months and this is the first time that I've heard anyone mention " Tomorrow never knows". It's one of the few beatles songs that I can remember hearing for the first time and thinking "wow, this is totally different". There was some talk about what got people into looping a while back and I'd have to say that on a sort of subconscious level hearing that song moved me in this direction. >> Yeah, I've never heard anyone mention it either. Unlike yourself, most of what I heard by the Beatles for the first time rocked my world and continues to knock me out to this day, but this track is a special one to be sure. As I understand it, there were five tape loops employed on five separate reel- to-reel machines being recorded directly onto the master. The loops were manually manipulated by John, Paul, George, Ringo and George Martin simultaneously. I heard recently that this posed some problems when George Martin went back to remix and remaster for the CD reissue, since he could only re-e.q. the master tape, whereas everything else on Revolver he could break down track by track. Since the performance was totally random and there wasn't a single track of just tape loops, it was impossible on TNK. I have to say, this is probably one of my favorite rock & roll tracks of all time - I know it's fashionable to put down Ringo's playing these days but his drum groove on this fuckin' rules, plus a characteristically great vocal by Lennon, what more do you want... Of course, the Beatles got more heavily into tape loops by way of George Martin's interest in musique concrete, such as the 1" tape pieces spliced into loops and used as the background for "Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite", and John & Yoko's tape collage "Revolution 9", etc. I think a thread on looping and the Beatles is long overdue here, surely they did a lot to bring tape manipulation and loops into pop music before anyone else (unless you count Les Paul's double-speed guitar overdubs on those old hits with Mary Ford - hey, why not) and used a variety of pretty interesting techniques in their applications. Ken R