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Re: DOD Dimension 12 SAMPLER/DELAY for $225????



Thanks.  What about the memory man?

Jay

Chuck Zwicky wrote:

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>
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> From: Chuck Zwicky <chuck.zwicky@wavefront.com>
> Subject: DOD Dimension 12 review
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>
> I have on loan from a local pro-audio dealer the new DOD Dimension 12.
> As a "looping device" it has serious flaws.
>
> I'll be brief:
>
> Wall Wart.
>
> Audio is mono.
>
> No level indication of any kind.
>
> Has a mono Hi-Z input jack, a stereo line level input, but only MONO 
>output.
> (actually ther are 2 outputs, but one is labled "Main" and the other
> "Monitor" they allow auditioning samples out one, and routing through 
>input
> audio to the other.)
>
> You can record four 6-second samples, which can be looped.
>
> You can play either 1 & 2 or 3 & 4 simultaneously (2 voice polyphony)
>
> You cannot listen to one sample while recording another.
>
> You cannot overdub on a sample.
>
> The 4 big buttons on the front panel do not play the stored samples, they
> 'select' them THEN you can press the 'play' button....
>
> Samples can be played backwards.
>
> Pressing the delay mode button wipes the sample memory.
>
> Delay has infinite hold mode. ("loop" button on front).
>
> Delay time cannot be adjusted with a knob, so no tuning of 'loops'.
>
> Modulation of delay is 'destructive' in 'loop' mode. (If you apply
> modulation to the held delay loop, it is now a permanent corruption of 
>the
> signal.)
>
> MIDI input only receives program change data.
>
> MIDI input only controls "sampler' functions (not delay functions).
>
> Has a footswitch input, 3 button proprietary. In delay mode said to 
>control
> "sample/hold" (maybe the same as the 'loop' button on the front panel?),
> 'Tap" and "effect on/off" (the  "effect" button on the front panel turns
> the modulation on).
>
> 'Looped' delay cannot be edited, reversed or copied into a Sample 
>location.
>
> Delay has a 'Tap-Tempo' feature, tapping slower tempos will 'multiply'
> current loop (as on Jam-Man).
>
> Has a nice 'reverse delay' mode which samples input signal for the 
>selected
> delay length, and plays it out backwards, during which time it mutes the
> dry signal.
>
> No loop, feedback or modulation while in reverse.
>
> Delay time only adjustable in 10ms increments up to 10s, then 100ms.
>
> Kim,
>  This device has a LONG way to go before it could be very useful to 
>anyone
> here. For instance: If you could play 4 samples simultaneously, record 
>and
> trim samples while the others played, trigger samples with MIDI or
> footswitches,
> copy delay loops into samples, reverse the delay while overdubbing, use
> audio inputs to trigger samples, even stereo direct signal pass through.
>
> Please imagine what you would like to be able to do with the box in a
> performance setting, then re-read the review and this reply.
>
> -Chuck Zwicky
>
>
> At 11:03 PM 5/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >Anyone have one?  a rack space sampler that lets you do 4 6 second loops
> >or 2 12 second loops for $225.  Anyone know whatn it sounds like?  Worth
> >the buy?  I am going to buy another delay device of some kind, and i
> >dont have enough money for an echoplex.  Now i have a boss dd5 and i
> >have been thinking about the electroharmonix memory man.  Any thoughts?
> >
> >thanks,
> >Jay
> >http://members.aol.com/Eddie96848/gig.htm
> >The Wax Dolls & Funk The Industry Records
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >



Chuck Zwicky wrote:

> Obviously you just missed this recent dialog:
>
> X-Sender: chuck.zwicky@wavefront.com
> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32)
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 12:33:14 -0500
> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> From: Chuck Zwicky <chuck.zwicky@wavefront.com>
> Subject: DOD Dimension 12 review
> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> archive/latest/5276
> Resent-Sender: SmartList <lists@slip.net>
> Resent-To: chuck.zwicky@wavefront.com
> Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 10:37:10 -0700
>
> I have on loan from a local pro-audio dealer the new DOD Dimension 12.
> As a "looping device" it has serious flaws.
>
> I'll be brief:
>
> Wall Wart.
>
> Audio is mono.
>
> No level indication of any kind.
>
> Has a mono Hi-Z input jack, a stereo line level input, but only MONO 
>output.
> (actually ther are 2 outputs, but one is labled "Main" and the other
> "Monitor" they allow auditioning samples out one, and routing through 
>input
> audio to the other.)
>
> You can record four 6-second samples, which can be looped.
>
> You can play either 1 & 2 or 3 & 4 simultaneously (2 voice polyphony)
>
> You cannot listen to one sample while recording another.
>
> You cannot overdub on a sample.
>
> The 4 big buttons on the front panel do not play the stored samples, they
> 'select' them THEN you can press the 'play' button....
>
> Samples can be played backwards.
>
> Pressing the delay mode button wipes the sample memory.
>
> Delay has infinite hold mode. ("loop" button on front).
>
> Delay time cannot be adjusted with a knob, so no tuning of 'loops'.
>
> Modulation of delay is 'destructive' in 'loop' mode. (If you apply
> modulation to the held delay loop, it is now a permanent corruption of 
>the
> signal.)
>
> MIDI input only receives program change data.
>
> MIDI input only controls "sampler' functions (not delay functions).
>
> Has a footswitch input, 3 button proprietary. In delay mode said to 
>control
> "sample/hold" (maybe the same as the 'loop' button on the front panel?),
> 'Tap" and "effect on/off" (the  "effect" button on the front panel turns
> the modulation on).
>
> 'Looped' delay cannot be edited, reversed or copied into a Sample 
>location.
>
> Delay has a 'Tap-Tempo' feature, tapping slower tempos will 'multiply'
> current loop (as on Jam-Man).
>
> Has a nice 'reverse delay' mode which samples input signal for the 
>selected
> delay length, and plays it out backwards, during which time it mutes the
> dry signal.
>
> No loop, feedback or modulation while in reverse.
>
> Delay time only adjustable in 10ms increments up to 10s, then 100ms.
>
> Kim,
>  This device has a LONG way to go before it could be very useful to 
>anyone
> here. For instance: If you could play 4 samples simultaneously, record 
>and
> trim samples while the others played, trigger samples with MIDI or
> footswitches,
> copy delay loops into samples, reverse the delay while overdubbing, use
> audio inputs to trigger samples, even stereo direct signal pass through.
>
> Please imagine what you would like to be able to do with the box in a
> performance setting, then re-read the review and this reply.
>
> -Chuck Zwicky
>
>
> At 11:03 PM 5/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >Anyone have one?  a rack space sampler that lets you do 4 6 second loops
> >or 2 12 second loops for $225.  Anyone know whatn it sounds like?  Worth
> >the buy?  I am going to buy another delay device of some kind, and i
> >dont have enough money for an echoplex.  Now i have a boss dd5 and i
> >have been thinking about the electroharmonix memory man.  Any thoughts?
> >
> >thanks,
> >Jay
> >http://members.aol.com/Eddie96848/gig.htm
> >The Wax Dolls & Funk The Industry Records
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >