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Hi Bob! & all ya other looping freaks!!!!! this is in response to: Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 96 Subject: Video Looping From: "BOB HENRY" I have never done computer based or any other form of digital video looping. All of my video loops were done with 1/2" reel-to-reel (b+w & color) video equipment. I always used the looping technique of threading the videotape from one deck to the next. On several occasions I even used a third deck!!!. I got the idea to try this from Brian Eno's diagram of his audio loop system on the back cover of "Discreet Music". I agree that this was an extremely avant-garde mode of video exploration & was not avidly explored by many because of the level of difficulty to achieve good quality footage. All of my video looping was done while in college (undergraduate & graduate school) which is how I had access to the reel-to- reel equipment. I actually started using reel-to-reel video in high school, but hadn't got the inspiration to try looping until later. During the five or so years I was doing video loops I was the only artist who was doing so. I was aware that other video artist before me had explored this area of video art, but I was determined to take it further than anyone else had previously. I think I was interested in pursuing video looping, because I tend to do the things that others shy away from! You are also correct in your statement that splicing video loops is impractical (if not utterly impossible!)! Actually, I have never worked that way with audio, either. Never liked the idea of cutting the tape! Video of course was a "sync beast" waiting to be conquered. Dealing with the sync was a continual battle that I always struggled with. Not to mention glitches, because video looping is kinda hard on the tape; and the tape quality back then was not near as good as it is now! If you were to try to achieve a spliced video loop, as you suggest (& I bet you're correct no one has ever achieved this), you would have to have a mathematically perfect splice that ended on one video frame field as the next were beginning (& since you wouldn't be able to "see" where that was--I'm betting that's impossible)!!! I don't know if you're familiar with video frames, but it's not linear, like audio, & each video frame consists of two scanned fields. the video heads actually scan the tape at about a 45 degree angle (/). My days of experimenting with video loops is (probably) over forever. Even if I managed to find some reel-to-reel machines (& they would have to be in (near) perfect condition, there's no reel-to-reel videotape being made!!! Now I've heard (read) many of you mentioning Digital Video Looping which I know nothing about. Please enlighten me!!!!!!!!!! Loopingly yrs, Stevo Wolfson sTeVo iN yR sTuDiO (visual) Pupaum (audio) http://www.angelfire.com/il/StevoInYrStudio/index.html (computer graphics) stevaum@aol.com