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orbitones et al, is amazing as well, tom waits is actually featured as a musician on that one, he does a sort of music concrete piece made from various machine noises and such, very nice. and the other stuff on there is amazing too, though IMHO the aphex twin song featured is one of his less interesting ones (much prefer his droning skills to his skittery beats skills). the cd is great, the book is great, highly recommended. damon baker fnord@siu.edu