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I'm saying it is "indeed a physical phenomena." What is time? What is reality? We know from A. Einstein, may he rest in peace, even if we don't fully understand, that time is different whether you're standing still or moving at very fast speeds. Just what does it mean to move "close to the speed of light"? Can't our spirits fly out at the speed of light and come back? I've heard too many stories about people who die and float away from their bodies, listen to conversations going on in other rooms, etc., and come back to their bodies because it's "not their time." I've also heard too many folkloric stories about holy or otherwise blessed men who "leave their bodies" and travel to other places, whatever. I hold that when we loop and get attuned to this dimensional door, we actually enter another level of existence and therefore time is physically different for us during those periods. You can wait as long as you want for "science" to catch up and offer some "real" proof for this, but my experience is good enough for me. I hold that your experience ought to be good enough for you. We at Loopers' Delight know what I'm talking about — the "zone," "trance," "meditation," whatever you want to call it. When we come to, we know we've been gone and have just come back. I've known for a long time that looping is more than just trying to exploit the most I can from my cheap and not-so-cheap electronic equipment, that music is more than mere organized sounds. And tea helps, especially when spiked with something. Somebody just mentioned the drugs, good old drugs. Our minds (spirits) are more than mere brains flashing biochemical signals. The sum of the molecules doesn't add up to the product. Some of us loopers are here only part time. OK, back to looping. | -----Original Message----- | From: ld thomson [mailto:heatshrink@hotmail.com] | Sent: Tuesday 08 June 1999 6:55 AM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: RE: The Effects Of Looping...Or am I loopy? | | | Hey, now are you saying it is a PHYSICAL effect or a preceived effect? | >I am also drug-free, but can attest to time warps during | soundscaping. | >This | >is indeed a physical phenomena, and applaud Thomson's bringing | it up. Pass | >the tea, please. | >