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ld thomson wrote: > I can see the effects of all these "mind freeing" substances > everytime I walk home from work. People who could potentially be doing > something other than laying in their own filth and trying to bum change >from > me. People who made very poor life style choices in the 1970's. there's a tendency to throw out the baby with the bathwater when it comes to these kind of discussions. psychedelics aren't "bad" because a lot of people abused (or misused) them. if you look at the patterns of psychedelic drug usage in indigenous cultures throughout the world (and many of these traditions certainly predate what we think of as civilized society (now maybe that can be considered an oxymoron!)), you will find that such drug use has played an extremely vital role in the rituals that connect humans to the web of life in the environment around them. because we have lost the resiliency of a holistic culture that humans have enjoyed over the millenia, finding a place for these "psychic helpers" can be a harrowing experience, leaving many casualties. but a world without psychedelics? horrors! lance g.