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I agree. If I'm playing against a digtital delay it's impossible to gat a drummer to keep time. A few years ago playing a U2 song with a typical dunk,de,dunk,de.... guitar riff I used an analogue delay which seemed a lot more tolerant of small shifts in tempo, I guess because the edges of the sound are a little less defined. Anyone use the EDP midi out to sync. drum machines? I always find that even with 1/8th beats at max. the clock output is far too slow even on a 5sec. base loop. At present I use the EDP + drum machine&sequencer. With (no sync.) long loops and moderate tempo (say 135bpm) there is a "micro" phase shift between the parts as the loop comes round which is rather nice, but I'd still like to try it in tight sync. Jim Carter University of Bristol Cantock's Close Bristol UK Tel. (44) 117 9289934 FAX (44) 117 9293746 e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk