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I do not play guitar or any other standard instrument for that matter.. i use found sounds as my palette.. i must say that i often end up just using my looping features on my quad 2 and my mpx 1 with maybe a bit of octave pitches..though sometimes i do drift towards those long deep hallways and the skipping delays. i say it is all a means to an end and some can pull it off while others drift in preset efxt hell. i prefer to spend many an hour making up my own special efxt blend so as to add to the sound not to make the efxt thee sound. c.white ---------- >From: "mark givens" <markeg@ivillage.com> >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Effect as crutch >Date: Thu, Nov 25, 1999, 12:33 PM > > >--Jeff beck uses relatively few effects reverb and fuzz. to get his tones > >On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:03:47 Christopher White wrote: >>how about efxs as an instrument? >>---------- >>From: "Alan Imberg" <alan_i@sprynet.com> >>To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> >>Subject: Re: Effect as crutch >>Date: Wed, Nov 24, 1999, 7:52 PM >> >> >>Clifford makes a very valid point. Its easy to take for granted the sound >>options we have today. I still marvel at Hendrix's recordings. The >effects >>may sound dated today but when I consider the state of the art circa >1966 to >>1970, I get blown away by the tones he gets almost as much as his >playing. >>Even more impressive in my opinion is the fact I've yet to hear anyone >come >>close to sounding like Jimi even thought the effects he used are now very >>common and affordable. >> >>Though it is a cliche, I find validity in the analogy that sonic effects >are >>the equivalent to musicians what extra colors are to a painter. Today, we >>have colors galore. Placed in certain peoples hands, they can become >nothing >>more than a smeared mess. Placed in the hands of someone with >imagination, >>patience, and vision, you can get a masterpiece. >> >>Bottom line: Its the imagination behind the tools that determines the >>quality. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Bien Appraisers <mailto:bienappraisers@mindspring.com> >>To: Loopers Delight <mailto:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 9:50 AM >>Subject: Effect as crutch >> >> >> This happened a lot in the 60's and 70's- people had concepts for >>sounds (Miles a great deal I hear) and went looking for them even to the >>point of having them made from scratch- inspiration- now we find >ourselves >>in a time where anyone from anywhere can go and buy just about every last >>effect on the planet for chump change- (basically!) so instead of a ring >>modulator being a rare item as it used to be, now you can have one and >100 >>other effects for a few hundred dollars- not a bad thing but of course >there >>will be those who just may be using the effect as a "crutch" every so >often- >> >> >>Clifford >> >> > > >-- >Join the most exciting community of women on the web! >iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, >your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, >and dozens of problem-solving tools. >http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html >