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Yes, actually you *can* use nothing more than a bunch of FX and a mixer as an instrument using feedback (ala David Meyers' Feedback Machines). Check out David's fantastic page (and pix of his machines). - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Christopher White <magicicada@mindspring.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Date: Thursday, November 25, 1999 12:49 AM Subject: Re: Effect as crutch >how about efxs as an instrument? >---------- >From: "Alan Imberg" <alan_i@sprynet.com> >To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> >Subject: Re: Effect as crutch >Date: Wed, Nov 24, 1999, 7:52 PM > > >Clifford makes a very valid point. Its easy to take for granted the sound >options we have today. I still marvel at Hendrix's recordings. The effects >may sound dated today but when I consider the state of the art circa 1966 to >1970, I get blown away by the tones he gets almost as much as his playing. >Even more impressive in my opinion is the fact I've yet to hear anyone >come >close to sounding like Jimi even thought the effects he used are now very >common and affordable. > >Though it is a cliche, I find validity in the analogy that sonic effects are >the equivalent to musicians what extra colors are to a painter. Today, we >have colors galore. Placed in certain peoples hands, they can become nothing >more than a smeared mess. Placed in the hands of someone with imagination, >patience, and vision, you can get a masterpiece. > >Bottom line: Its the imagination behind the tools that determines the >quality. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bien Appraisers <mailto:bienappraisers@mindspring.com> >To: Loopers Delight <mailto:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> >Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 9:50 AM >Subject: Effect as crutch > > > This happened a lot in the 60's and 70's- people had concepts for >sounds (Miles a great deal I hear) and went looking for them even to the >point of having them made from scratch- inspiration- now we find ourselves >in a time where anyone from anywhere can go and buy just about every last >effect on the planet for chump change- (basically!) so instead of a ring >modulator being a rare item as it used to be, now you can have one and 100 >other effects for a few hundred dollars- not a bad thing but of course there >will be those who just may be using the effect as a "crutch" every so often- > > >Clifford > >