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>>> <jpw77@together.net> 12/06 10:38 AM >>> > I take it all back-realised I've never put my Vortex in bypass, so I did and got the same thing. So it's the unit itself putting the dry signal out of phase. Why, I don't know. Could be delaying the signal slightly. Make sure the mix setting on the Vortex is 100 wet. Many of the Vortex supposedly 100% wet setting include at least some undelayed signal which WILL result in some sort of phasing interaction... this might be good or bad depending on what you're really after. Vortex for the most part likes to be serially patched instead of parallel patched... although I did both with two vortexes. I usually made specific patches designed for parallel use when using aux buss applications and stuck to them. -Miko