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I was looping this morning before I had to go to work (since there was no milk, cereal, or much of anything else in the house) and had quite a loop going - interesting, almost sounded like something from 1999, but was also quite different. I definetely wanted to save it. I was attempting to save the file from procrastination, but I stupidly pressed the save file button twice and it overwrote my interesting 12 minute loop. Crud. Maybe if I get out of here early I can do a loop when I get home. Having to work today is the pits but that's what you get when you work in the computer industry. I've started a tradition that just before a new year occurs, I create a loop with the new year as its title. So far I've got 1998, 1999 and am working on 2000. Fripp is not necessarily the inspiration here. I'm using the Procrastination audio looper for the Mac in conjunction with various guitars through a Mesa studio preamp and a Vortex by way of a Roland VS-840 workstation into my computer. I suppose I could run my synths through it as well, or even my voice. This gives me: Procrastination = 4 minutes, stereo delay Vortex = about 2 seconds VS-840 = about 2 seconds Hey! I just got the new musicians friend catalog - looks like that ZOOM multi FX is now $89. Is this right? Is that the one with the 4 second delay.