Todd (and all others interested), I just switched ISP's (640k ADSL is great - yeah I know, speed kills). My new web site is: http://members.bellatlantic.net/~kmistove/ (the old eclipse.net site is up for about two more weeks). You can get "procrastination" from there (still and always free - NOTE: new Max and MSP revisions are now available + Great news: Max is now Gibson free and officially in the hands of cycling74). One of these days I'll update/improve that ridiculously simple creation of mine, "procrastination"... Have fun! Ken > I have links to both looper 1.5 and procrastination at my loop page. > I didn't write 'em, I just use 'em: > > http://www.waste.org/~crash/loopage.html > > Enjoy them, and than their authors with goodies and such.