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I would like to pass along an old analog tape loopers trick which I haven't seen used or mentioned in about 20 years. To handle very long loops of tape, just spool it loose directly into a large paper shopping bag. The tape must drop vertically in loose folds and is pulled out from the bottom through the top of the bag. The bag should be a foot or two below the tape deck in order to allow any tangles to fall out naturally by gravity. I seems impossible, but it works like a charm. Stuart At 12:13 AM +0000 4/25/2000, J.G. Wong wrote: >I use a telescoping aluminum arm that has a spare guide from the machine >I am using. For longer loops I use a microphone stand with a guide >affixed to the top. >Using a replacement guide is easier on the machine and tape and gives >more consistent results. > >G. Wong > >I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but one of the easiest ways to >make a >"looping fixture" on an open-reel machine is to simply build a wood face >(probably plywood) around the machine, then use push - pins (y'know, the >ones with the barrel-like upper parts) to extend the tape outwards from >the >deck. Least that's how I did it when I was a boy. >Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster >dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us Stuart Fox Director-CalArts Guitar Program sgfox @music.calarts.edu