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Hi John! >Does anybody else here play loops rather than machine them? I'm not quite following you here. When you discuss "playing a loop" vs. "machine a loop" I think you're talking about playing a kind of ostinato pattern? If so, I think my answer is "Yes!" As a drummer [please don't drop the "r" :) ] in a former life, I've found that many soloists wanted me to "loop" behind them. Also, I think we have some Indian musicians here with us. Certainly, some of the traditional accompaniment in classical Indian music could be termed "playing a loop." And some of us (myself included) play the didjeridu. Which is quite "loopy" also. Tell us more about how you approach "playing a loop". Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com