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Todd... welcome to the 21st century! If you want some serious computer-based music options check out Reaktor (by Native Instruments). Build your own synths, effects, whatever. I just bought it recently and have already been building my own loop tools in it, for retrospective looping of snippets of live performance. There's a big library of user patches for it which includes an all-in-one Frippertronics patch! cheers, os os@scee.sony.co.uk http://www.mp3.com/carbonboy/ http://www.mp3.com/darkroomuk/