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Noah, Thanks for the subtle tip on buzztrack.....pretty cool page. >From: noah <fishmong@braincramp.org> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: MIDI Data looping (Go to buzztrack.com) >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:11:59 -0400 (EDT) > > >KeyKit is beautiful. I've been looking for something like this for eons. >Thanks for the link! I've yet to try BuildingBlocks... it sounds like >Buzz for midi. If that's the case, I'd pay a lot more than 100 bucks... > >Speaking of Buzz, I must must must plug it all I can. It's incredible. >Everyone needs it. It's not useful for realtime, but having grown up on >trackers, I couldn't live without it. It's been compared to ProTools, yet >it's free! Anyone who composes anything must use it. USE IT. > >sorry. I'd describe it further, but the buzztrackers do a better job than >I ever could. > >-><- > >On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Timoth E. Gard wrote: > > > >Tell me more about KeyKit and BuildingBlocks. I've looked at both of > > these in > > >the past but have never had the time try them. > > > > KeyKit is the bomb when it comes to algorithmic composition. But I find > > it's also good for some real-time processing. There's a mixed >text/graphics > > interface with lots of tools for dealing with tracks, controllers, >phrases, > > etc. There's even more statistically advanced features like the >ability >to > > create new tracks based on general characteristics of another >track/phrase > > (Markov Maker). The data stream is in text form, so it's quite easy to > > manipulate. Plus, I think it's been ported to every platform but >Atari2600. > > It's very small and efficient. Check out Tim Thompson's website. >There's > > plenty more info there, plus he has some of the tools available in > > web-accessible form. Cool. > > > > Whereas KeyKit is mostly programmatical and composition-oriented, > > BuildingBlocks is mostly graphical and performance-oriented. You have >small > > modules that perform different tasks (note in, echo, arpeggiators) and >you > > graphically connect them, i.e. drag a line from the output of one to >the > > input of another. Oh, and it's also set up to allow input from the > > keyboard, from mice and from joysticks (2 buttons or 3!). Since the > > learning curve is shorter for me with BB, I tend to favor it for >capturing > > peformance ideas on the fly. It has a very LEGO feel to it. And don't >rule > > it out for composing -- one fellow just used it as the major >composition > > engine in a minimalist piece. I can't recall his name right now. It's >on > > the BB website. > > > > Wow. How's that for a sales pitch? Which reminds me, KeyKit is FREE, >and >BB > > is under $100 (don't remember the exact price). > > > > >Probably not what you're after, but I've played around with combining >a > > >mouse-to-MIDI program (mouse movement generates two MIDI CC data >streams) > > with a > > >wireless (infrared) mouse. It's fun! > > > > That's a great idea! Sounds like fun. BB might be down your alley. > > > > >What kind of MIDI do you want to transmit (wirelessly)? > > > > I want the whole MIDI stream wireless. I have a WX5 wind controller >(MIDI > > sax) and I want to be able to walk around without dragging a cord >behind > > me, just like guitarists get to do. MidiMan used to make one, but no > > longer, and the company Aquila won't return my inquiries. Some people >have > > suggested using a wireless network card, but the mod on that seems a >bit > > over my head. The primary issue is error correction. I've been >wondering > > about wireless modems (radio, not infrared, then there's no >line-of-sight > > issues), but have been too busy on other projects to jump into that >quagmire. > > > > Of course, if anyone else thinks this is a cool idea... > > > > Hope all of this helps somebody, anybody. > > > > Tim > > http://www.quiltedfish.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com