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sorry to ask off topic but where is that Pat Metheny rant? I had it and lost it but it was and is a great read!Also it contains some REAL nasty gritiness that I wish were present in his(present) music IMHO.THANX...seeya,STANNER ---------- >From: KB305@aol.com >To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: the olde Socratic Discourse (was: Warez, Arf Bungin' Magnets, >etc.) >Date: Sat, Sep 9, 2000, 11:55 AM > >In a message dated 09/09/2000 12:07:55 PM Central Daylight Time, >switters@earthlink.net writes: > ><< As much as you might claim that the listening audience has changed you >should consider this- In his own day would more of the general listening >public have > gone to see Coltrane or Ricky Nelson? >> > >Survey says: Ricky Nelson, that crack-smoking oldies-touring plane-burner. > >I never suggested the listening audience has changed... it's just that >quality, once defined, was and is very often an elitist thing. There are >exceptions, but they are usually just exceptions. (Frank Sinatra, in the >era >referenced above, leapt to mind. For a time, he was both 'good' by most >definitions, and popular.) > >Instead of Trane, I could have spoken of someone alive today, but that >brings >up judgments about current artists. (Can we all agree on someone alive >today >that is unquestionably 'good'? I bet it would be tough.) > >Otherwise, logic suggests that the Big Mac is haute cuisine based on its >'figures'. We all know better. As Pat Metheny ranted recently, 'We >ignore >this at our own peril.' > >And to be sure, my earlier rant was not anti-technology. My current rig >includes an EDP and a brand-new TC Electronic G-Force. But I don't think >it's wise to learn how to run Photoshop without learning to draw first, >nor >to compose via MIDI and Mac without learning how to play well with the >drummer, or spell chords, or direct the audience by using silence, for >instance. > >kb > >