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I totally agree with spaceloop's response, but will add some further thoughts of my own. I see the Loopers Delight community as something analagous to my personal circles of friends (yes, I have several :)). One of those circles include two very talented visual artists, each of which is good enough to draw professionally for Marvel or DC comics if only given the opportunity. Now, I haven't seen a single drawings by either artist that I would call "bad", but if I did, would I say "it sucks" to his face? In private is one thing, but would I proclaim "Jim's drawing sucks" in a publication for all to see? I mean, would I ever feel so strongly that I would not mind publicly humiliating my friend just to drive home to him the intensity of said "suckage"? This is what I'm driving at. Thanks, Paolo From: rich <rich@nuvisionsca.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Responding to "gig spam" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:11:22 -0800 This is an interesting thread, i think, in that we are collectively defining some boundaries. How harsh should one be in critiquing a fellow Looper? Should we be soft, because we might hurt their feelings? Hurt their career? Or should we be blatantly honest, since they did advertise here, and encouraged to come to the show and give our opinions? IMHO...Don't expect to be treated with kid gloves if you're doing something "out there". If you're doing noisy stuff, then the majority of people are going to hear just plain noise. I don't think we should protect these people's feelings. The avante folks here would see my music as alt/pop/garbage, i'll bet. But respect is different to enjoyment. I respect Sonic Youth, but don't prefer to listen to them. I've seen Nels Cline play a few times, and while i enjoyed myself at the experience of going to a show and seeing talented people play, i don't particularly like the style of music he plays. I'd rather listen to Kind of Blue than Bitches Brew. And that's just a tiny, tiny slice of the musical pie according to my personal tastes... kudos all around, to the advertisement, the performance and the critiques! rich _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com