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>in any case, it is kind of absurd to expect Damon, or any product rep, to >divulge the internal guestimates of when a product will ship. true enough...but Kim has also called Damon and other company reps out on the carpet in the past, since they are sortof 'using' the list to advertise their product, and get some scoop on desired features and such. if that's the case, i just think we deserved a better answer than, "hey guys, we're just waiting on a swanky new power supply". if it was going to be delayed by whatever amount of time...Damon would have garnered a bit more respect by just saying so. he could have even used the over-realistic formula (ya know that one? take your original estimate and double it?) and we would still be going "right on! make a bitchen machine!" and hell, i'm not even on the group buy and not planning on buying one well into next year probably... so, rich, then shut up....:) rich