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>Maybe...maybe ....next Winter NAMM we might check if Damon & co. have the >crappy thing up and running! In the meantime, Damon, tell us how can we >trust your words anymore!?!?............Italo Oh, calm down. I'm sure Damon told us as much as he could given what he knew and/or what he could publicly comment on. Maybe (probably) Electrix knew the release date was going to slip again--this happens. Why didn't they immediately tell us and all their competitors? Because that's the reality of business. It's almost always better to put off releasing bad news until absolutely necessary. Maybe other manufacturers put off or cancelled their plans for a looper because they thought Electrix was going to fill the available market space along with the EDP. That would be good for Electrix (and for the EDP). The MI business is a tough one. In the meantime, if you have to have a full-featured hardware looping solution, buy an EDP, if you can find one. It's that simple. The world of the looping musician is an expensive one. TravisH