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Ever hear/see Joe Craven from David Grisman Quintet? His percussion vocals are amazing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Wagner" <jondrums@hotmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 3:22 PM Subject: Re: Integrity of Performance and the Sample >But then I took it one step further: I began using my acoustic bass guitar >more for solo/loop stuff, and began playing the body of the bass as a >percussion instrument and making loops in real time with that. Now I >prepare the bass with aligator clips for faux gamelan type sounds, use >chopsticks, different muting techniques, and, of course, sound processing >to alter the timbres. Max, others: I have found myself in exactly the oposite position! I am a drummer/percussionist trying to find ways to include melodies and harmonies in my performance. I am thouroughly opposed to using prerecorded samples/loops because I passionately believe that live performance is incredible powerful. So I find myself in the position of wishing for more melodic possibilities using percussion. I am in conflict between my minamalist nature and my wish for more molodic possibilities, which keeps me from going out and buying a marimba or similar. By minimalist, I mean I don't believe in thinking that I need to go buy something new so that I can make _good_ music. I believe that I can make music with whatever I have at the moment. So I have been working on techniques to get tones out of my drums. I have also been trying to (gasp!) sing, chant, and use body music (I never thought I had even a passable voice, but I'm finding ways to use it). I would love to hear ideas that other people have in this vein. Max: you might try some ideas that have worked for me in the past - actually use your body to make rhythms. Stomp your feet, clap your hands, slap your knees, whistle, hum, and make farting noises under your armpit.... Of course this requires a microphone, but think of the possibilities. I think this sort of thing could really endear you to the audience because these are things everyone can do. Plus you can practice these techniques anywhere! bye- jon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com