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At 1:09 PM -0800 2/9/01, Richard Zvonar wrote: >At 3:32 PM -0500 2/9/01, Pete Mundt wrote: >>I've got a good friend who described how he did this with 2 reel to >>reel machines by placing them both on a level surface side by side. >>Then he would place coke bottles between the 2 machines, and thread >>the tape through the first machine, then in a zig-zag patern >>through the coke bottles and on through the second machine. >>Depending on how long of a loop he wanted, determined how many >>bottles he would use, and how far apart the machines would be. > >Mic stands also work well as tape guides, though coke bottles are >obviously cheaper! > >This dual-deck delay technique has a history dating back to the >1950s, and it was a favorite practice of Pauline Oliveros during her >San Francisco Tape Center days in the '60s (she uses four PCM-42s >now). > A not uncommon problem with the cheap reel-to-reel decks I used to own for this purpose was slight differences in tape speed. As a result, the tape could get progressively tighter, knocking over the coke bottles or whatever, or looser, until it unthreaded itself. This was troublesome but on the other hand, it caused a slight pitch shift in the regeneration loop which can be interesting. My friend Bob Ostertag dealt with this issue in an amusing way: he used helium balloons as tape guides. The tape between the two decks ran through a loop tied in the string on a big balloon. The play deck ran slow, so the balloon gradually rose up into the air as more and more tape fell slack between the machines. -Alex S.