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Nope, merely reacting to the kind of closed-mindedness that pervades the music biz as some kind of qualification process. All too easy to think of it as one big happy family when one's included perhaps. From: <Hedewa7@aol.com> > just responding partially to: > spgoodman@earthlight.net writes: > >I don't think the term "out" that we're talking about has anything to do > >with "outsiders" in this sense. "Out" has to do with whether something > >is no longer being designated by (often self-appointed) critics as >"hip", > >"cool", or otherwise interesting to them - > this is definitely *not* my understanding of the term 'out', at least insofar > as its regular useage in the vernacular of the community in which i > participate. > my understanding of the term might loosely define it thusly: > 'out'side the norm (eg, playing 'outside the ordained changes', from the > 'jazz/post-jazz' community), as in the commonly used phrase: > 'that shit was *out*!' Where I was coming from is not the 'jazz community', so the phrase 'out' must have a different meaning there. I guess it's a bit like the blank look one would get if yez went to St. Louis and asked where one could find "da kine". > add'ly, my comprehension of the word also falls within a context more >akin to > whatall's been termed 'outsider art'..... > > also: > are not *all* critics ---including you, me, et al--- self-appointed, somehow? Probably. The critics I'm referring to - the ones that usually get heard, printed and offered up as manna - are usually paid for it. > >and since such people always > >have some claim to the pulse of the public, we should all bow down, >admit > >how right they are, and follow their "hip" example/instructions. Bullocks! > > Bolshoi! (expletive debated but deleted) > i agree, sorta/kinda: > though i think it can be aesthetically 'enlightening', somehow, to allow > oneself to weigh *all* kindsa folks' opinions on things 'artistic', esp. when > they don't agree w/one's own; hmmmm..... Simply thinking that I'm downing someone else's opinion because it's different than mine is less than open-minded on its own. What I was talking about was the way the music biz operates on a level of manditory classification, and how many critics in the press act more as promoters for that thought process than actual examiners of art. This aspect is one that causes us all trouble in getting heard, sold, played, you name it. Reacting negatively to closed-mindedness and limited thinking, and the selling of it as truth, is not in itself closed-minded, folks. Have a cookie. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery.html - Online Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases!