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At 11:13 AM -0500 2/22/01, Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: >my understanding of the term might loosely define it thusly: >'out'side the norm (eg, playing 'outside the ordained changes', from the >'jazz/post-jazz' community), as in the commonly used phrase: >'that shit was *out*!' This is the exactly the musical/social context and meaning of "out" that I'm familiar with, having heard it used that way by improvising musicians on the international free music scene. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com